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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our difference differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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how you doing today is monday august 23

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236 days into the new year only 139 days

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from a brand new bunker

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yeah man we moved but it's still

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somewhere in the middle of nowhere

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you ain't ever gonna find out

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it's it it is indeed a total undisclosed

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but we're almost there i'll tell you

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about it in a minute

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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this is fade to block for kjcr the game

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changer network and kgra the planet

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i'm heroes jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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all right it's really dark in here

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spots and things above me before i'll

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get to all of that eventually but for

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there's a much more to do but but i got

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now we've got uh a huge week on the show

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tomorrow night and uh scott is always

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phone is blowing up that we have to to

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it's an amazing story and um you know

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ufo base in the mojave

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an incredible book an incredible story

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wednesday night and then thursday night

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open lines it is fader night

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all night long and and now this is the

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twitter at jchurchradio hello to

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um and and for for those of you like you

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hello to everybody the sandbox is

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all right i confess i blew up j church

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radiophone demanding he have anjali on

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she's on the show let's get to the

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the fastest orbiting asteroid in our

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i'm looking at the wrong camera i'm

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okay that's youtube this is and that's

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looking at this one should i move it

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it's weird i'm looking in the wrong

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direction let me move this over now if i

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do this now

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now i'm looking at the camera

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the fastest orbiting asteroid in our

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the rock known as 2021 ph 27 completes

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one lap around our sun

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every 113 earth days

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that's the shortest orbital period of

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any known solar system object except

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the planet mercury which takes about 88

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elliptical path than mercury does and

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therefore gets considerably closer to

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the sun about 12.4 million miles at its

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closest approach

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compared to mercury

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at a distant 29 million miles

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the u.s spacewalk outside the

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international space station originally

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tomorrow august 24th with nasa astronaut

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mark vande hey

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and jaxa japanese jackson space agency

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astronaut uh uh akihiko

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a minor medical issue involving

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they say that the issue is not a medical

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emergency and that makes you wonder what

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it is toothache would that stop a

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spacewalk that's not an emergency is it

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what would delay a spacewalk well they

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say the spacewalk is not time sensitive

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and crew members are continuing to move

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forward with another station

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work right now the teams are assessing

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spacex crs-23 cargo resupply launch

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russian spacewalks the preview briefing

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uh for today was also rescheduled and

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at a later date

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let's get to show crack and happy

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birthday to today

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barbara eden

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are you ready for this

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barbara eden today

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is 90.

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wow

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you know when you when when you go back

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let me say something about barbara eden

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there were a lot of shows

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that came out at the same time featuring

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um

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leading ladies like barbara eden you had

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bewitched right

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you had uh the mary tyler moore show the

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dick van dyke show

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these shows all came out at the same

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and i'm

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i was a barbara eden fan i like

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bewitched right i did elizabeth

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montgomery i did it was a great show and

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the dick van dyke show with mary tyler

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moore was was great but uh

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i'm going i dream of genie

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happy birthday barbary 90 years old now

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listen to this

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it's kind of messed with me today

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rick

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springfield

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72

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[Music]

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incredible

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guitarist dean deleo of the stone temple

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pilots today is 60. rick springfield is

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72.

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incredible our dead guy's birthday today

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is i need a moment of silence please

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keith moon

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1946 to 1978 died at the age of 32

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keith was of course the drummer for the

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who he was noted for his unique style

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and his eccentric

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often self-destructive behavior and drug

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addiction

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tv's out of hotel knows

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but he was a great drummer

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he died on september 6th in 1978 of a

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drug overdose happy birthday keith moon

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on this day industry 2000 2006

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who kaz look at rick springfield 72

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years old is that's just incredible to

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me incredible on this in history 2006

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natasha campus an austrian teenager who

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was kidnapped at the age of 10

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escapes from her captor

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wolfgang pricklop

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pricklopic kit till

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prick or

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prickly pill

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i guess that's how you say it well it

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doesn't matter he's dead

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like momo

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right

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after eight years of captivity from

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being kidnapped she escaped and then

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shortly after her escape

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wolfgang

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there you go fader fact here you go now

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check this out

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sea lion

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named ronda

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once escaped from an urban zoo in

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providence rhode island

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and she was never recovered she got away

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she made her way through a few park

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lakes they were chasing her

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made her way through a few park lakes

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traveled two miles over land

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scaled small walls and got to a river

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that flowed into a bay and eventually

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the ocean and she was gone

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and that

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is your fader fact i read the whole

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story today it's absolutely incredible

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tonight we have very special guests john

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sumple and jack roth are joining us to

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introduce their new film extraordinary

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the revelations now this is an important

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film

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and there's a lot going on in and around

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it we'll be discussing all of that

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tonight with john and jack

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and then tomorrow night scott walter is

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here wednesday nights

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on jealous fader night with open lines

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all night long

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all right see when i get when i when i

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tone down my voice

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when i bring it down it doesn't echo

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because it's not bouncing off the walls

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and i could

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just talk to you like this all night

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see

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no echo that's how loud

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my voice is it just echoes and booms

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yeah but i could do this

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i could

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river moon coffee

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i like my coffee doc

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just go to rivermooncough.com

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river moon wellness all the links are

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over at jimmychurchradio.com the amazon

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store it is truly the best coffee in the

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world

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all right

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now

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um i wanted to take some time to to talk

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about a few things

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and uh one i'm gonna start off here

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the making contact conference was over

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the weekend and uh well five days

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and i was over there with everybody and

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all of you fade or not so it was great

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thank you

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uh for hanging out

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um

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it was

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virtual artificial reality right

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augmented reality artificial reality and

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everybody

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got to uh create their avatars and and

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go hang out it was incredible for me to

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stand on that stage and see

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all of these avatars it was it was

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insane

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and it was so much fun but uh

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i um

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i i wrote out

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like this speech i was on from nine

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until 10 30 and i had nanny sheehan

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there and i had stephen bassett

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and mark sims uh to to come in and chat

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with me

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but

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i wrote out and i and and it ended up

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getting more and more passionate what i

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had to say

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and i don't get

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a chance too often i mean a little bit

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you know for 10 minutes a night here on

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fade to black and i do

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do some little rant and things but but i

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very rarely get to just

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just let it out

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and i did

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and the reason uh

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for that

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um i didn't have a reason

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what i mean what i mean is i started to

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get emotional

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about our ufo community as i was writing

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this

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much it's it's it's it's too much

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but i'm gonna say it anyway there is so

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much

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going on right now

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our ufo community uh before

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uh

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before this year really

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um we can everybody brings up december

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2017 and that's fine that's great

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but um

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this last six months

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has been crazy

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and leading up to that and i'm going

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back to when i was 10 years old you know

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that's that's 50 years

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where

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i was

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focused on

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maybe something happening once a year on

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tv some ufo documentary is going to be

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out something live on television and

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then it came to you know things like

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larry king on on cnn

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though and and all of that was just

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spaced out it was like a year apart and

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sometimes two years and uh you know ufo

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documentaries that you had to go and

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chase down you know then youtube you

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know of course came out

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uh there there are a lot of uh

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documentaries in the 70s and in the 80s

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that that are now on youtube but you

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never got a chance to see those you know

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and released

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you know on videotape or something in

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the 80s and and that stuff was hard to

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find

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it was a rare thing and now even since

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2017

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when i think about what is happening

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right now

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and in this last six months

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it's been a whirlwind

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for this ufo community

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and i am so happy

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for this ufo community because i know

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how i feel

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and what is going on right now yes

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um stephen greer right came out with his

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documentary um it came out with two in

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the last year

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um james fox and the phenomenon

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uh uh the tv series of course you know

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showtime's

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jj abrams and and netflix with the with

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the six-part ufo secret projects

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um that six-part documentary those

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others and tonight we have john sumple

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and jack roth joining us

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their new documentary which is uh

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getting ready to come out

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and we're going to talk about all of

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oh man

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[Laughter]

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oh man

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i'm live right now in the middle of the

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show and i am texting you and everybody

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knows

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that you are interrupting

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period

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that's lou elizondo

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and speaking of that

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so

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we have uh the the the conferences going

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on we just did the conference with uh

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billy carson

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absolutely

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an amazing conference we've got the uh

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john and jack's new film that is getting

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uh uh

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getting ready to be released

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and then there is another film and i

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can't say too much about right now but

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it's shot and finished

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and that's going to premiere i'll just

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tell you right now on 11 11

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uh november 11th and um

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everything

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and this is and this is the stuff that i

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can talk about there's other things

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going on with other people

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and some stuff that i'm involved in too

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but i know what's happening

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and it's getting ready to bust out

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there's other stuff that is happening

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and it's getting ready to bust out and

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it's all happening at the same time

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the conversations that i have during the

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day and i know

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uh who i'm talking to what is happening

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what is going on all these things

548
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all at the same time and it is

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i i feel like i'm gonna have a heart

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attack

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i i am just

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emotionally so happy and my adrenaline

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because i know

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00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,520
what is going to happen for this

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00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:00,000
community and and i

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00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:02,320
spoke about this on saturday night and i

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didn't want to let that go if you

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00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:07,039
weren't at making contact this is what i

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spoke about

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on uh saturday night

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everything is happening right now and

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it's at breakneck speed

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um i i waited 50 years for for this

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and and i can only tell you that um

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this community is is finally finally

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gonna be

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where they've always wanted to be

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there's the other part to this

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which uh uh i spoke about on saturday

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which is this i

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i kind of miss

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00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,520
our little private world

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00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:49,600
right our community you know the

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community's big but i'm talking about we

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had a private world

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where

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we talked we did you know we wanted

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people to

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to be exposed to this we wanted

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worldwide acceptance we wanted the

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senate and the white house and the

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military to to finally be we wanted but

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now

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we got all of that

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and our little private world

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is now

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not so private

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and i

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i kind of miss it

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isn't it strange

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i don't know

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if i wan i mean we always wanted

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mainstream media to be covering this

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right we wanted the senate we wanted the

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congress he wanted the house we wanted

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the white house we wanted you know

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acceptance and recognition well you know

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what we've got all of that

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and

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i kind of liked it better before

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it's the truth i thought about this

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our little private world is

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is now everybody else's business

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but

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as i said saturday night you got to be

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careful what you wish for

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this is what we wanted we wanted

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acceptance we wanted everybody talking

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about this we wanted the mainstream

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media we wanted the newspapers and we

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wanted every we wanted and now here we

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are

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and it's only going to get

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crazier

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these are good days these are good days

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these are great days i am your host

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jimmy church we have an amazing week

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coming up tonight john temple and jack

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roth are here to introduce their new

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film it is called

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extraordinary the revelations tomorrow

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night scott walter is back

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he's back with the stones and wednesday

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night

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anjali anjali is here for the first time

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it's an incredible story and i am going

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to this is her first

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interview

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okay i i know all the requests have come

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in we are going to get all of the

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details on wednesday night with anjali

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and then thursday night of course

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is fader night with open lines all night

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long i'm your host jimmy church this is

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fade to black

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what an amazing time to be in our ufo

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community

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i'm right there this is great stuff

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on the game changer network and ktra the

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planet this is fade to black i'm real

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jimmy church follow me on twitter at j

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all right all right i'll be right back

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with john and jack right after this

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short break stay with me

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saving 20 helps too doesn't it

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preparedwithjimmy.com there's no time to

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nine out of ten geneticists agree

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fade to black

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is not

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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what's up i'm chris what up this

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is jimmy church radio

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church

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great night on the show i'm so excited

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00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:47,440
tonight

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john temple and jack roth join us they

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are going to introduce their new film

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extraordinary the revelations with an

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exclusive world premiere of their

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trailer that we did about an hour ago

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over on youtube and you can go and check

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that out only on fade to black well

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tonight tomorrow everybody else is going

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to be showing this trailer

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jack roth and john sumple have been

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working in the paranormal realm together

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since 1997.

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in 2011 along with the third jade jamie

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saranoff they founded j3 films to create

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engaging entertaining and educational

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documentaries that challenge

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conventional wisdom now j3 films takes

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audiences on an emotional journey of

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discovery by tapping into the innate

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human desire to explore the unknown and

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asking the question

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what if this is all real kind of sounds

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like fade to black actually

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extraordinary the revelations explores

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the global history of ets the end games

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proposed by three vastly different

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belief systems now we are going to be

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going through

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all three tonight and the experiences of

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retired military whistleblowers directly

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involved in government programs related

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to et engagement and communication i

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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black

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jack roth and johnson i'm going to be

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gone oh wait a minute sorry about that

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guys you guys have been listening to a

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delay of the show

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and uh

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00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:20,160
how entertaining was that hearing

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everything in time delay welcome to

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those cool

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yeah little

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you know what's funny uh and welcome uh

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00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:29,599
john and jack it's uh great to uh see

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00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,720
you and and hear you both again but um

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00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:34,400
uh that was uh

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a 90-second uh uh a time travel uh thing

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for you both uh to enjoy but i have to

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fight that all the time

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so um i i don't know where to start um

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uh

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my my part in this how do i how do i say

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00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:54,560
this i'm gonna let you guys

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uh

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film

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uh because i don't appear in it now

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we'll talk about that in just a second

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um but uh

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i've been following you guys for a long

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time and i remember

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um this is kind of where i want to start

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i remember uh the two of you

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popped up in my face with the camera

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a couple of years ago

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and said talk

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right and um

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and it was i was like okay

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like right now

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and and we did that and i knew somehow

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of course we got to mention lori wagner

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as well

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that eventually we would find a way to

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work with each other

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and i'm more excited about my

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participation in in my small

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way

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my contribution to the film uh more than

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being on camera and and i want to thank

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you for that opportunity so

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i'm gonna i'm gonna start with john

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first jack if you don't mind

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uh john and i did a lot of sweat

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uh equity in this film and we got

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through it

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um

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uh john thank you and

835
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:11,680
the approach of this film was completely

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different uh than before uh why did you

837
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choose to do this after the first two

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films

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00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:21,920
well this one i think we we

840
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see it more as a um

841
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:26,640
i'm getting an echo

842
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,760
the echo is not from us you sound great

843
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:31,520
over here

844
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okay

845
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:35,200
you're gonna have to fight through it

846
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:38,000
okay i'll do my best okay it's stopped

847
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:39,760
it's gone now

848
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,880
um the uh i guess the the the

849
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get into the whole narration part of it

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uh

851
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the first thing i would say though is

852
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that isn't ambush journalism the best

853
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:56,069
you know what and and when when ambush

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journalism guerrilla filmmaking right

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00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,079
right when that goes down

856
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:04,480
you get the real person

857
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,480
you got the real me

858
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,079
no and it was and it was great it was a

859
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:10,000
great way to kind of introduce ourselves

860
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,440
and and

861
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:13,520
we we had a mutual connection with jim

862
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:15,920
martin at 1091 pictures and and that

863
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:17,599
that definitely helped to kind of grease

864
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,359
the skids but it really was we were

865
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,680
looking for a voice that best

866
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:24,079
helped tell the next story which in our

867
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,760
opinion is one of the more important

868
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,440
ones which is how does this all fit

869
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,359
together so we kind of feel like we've

870
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:31,599
been taking uh even though this is like

871
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,680
the what we're considering the third leg

872
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:35,920
of a trilogy uh there are three

873
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,839
standalone films but they all kind of

874
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:40,160
build on each other kind of culminating

875
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:42,000
in where we are today the first film was

876
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,160
more focused on lights in the sky

877
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:45,920
abduction

878
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,119
reproduction hybridization programs in

879
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:51,280
hybrid children and kind of left you

880
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:52,800
dangling with the hybrid children the

881
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:54,800
second film was more about the emotional

882
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:57,520
impact of being an experiencer who's

883
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,800
gone through something extremely

884
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:00,480
traumatic like an unexplained

885
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:03,440
unexplained pregnancy and an appeal to

886
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,560
be more

887
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:06,720
empathetic and sympathetic to people

888
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:07,920
who've gone through something that you

889
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:10,480
can't quite understand this film is like

890
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,400
well how does this all fit in in the

891
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:13,920
grand scheme of things so when we look

892
00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:16,720
at the the history of the world uh it

893
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,839
going from the earliest recordings of uh

894
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:22,800
what could very easily be defined as

895
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:25,440
beings from another world that residents

896
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:27,680
of the planet saw and documented on cave

897
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:29,920
walls and in in in uh during the

898
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:32,319
renaissance period in in paintings and

899
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:35,359
in ancient greece greece and egypt and

900
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:38,000
in italy the things that they all kind

901
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:39,040
of

902
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,319
documented

903
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,240
and we wanted to take audiences in this

904
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,240
film on a journey from that point

905
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:46,079
through to the present day

906
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:49,280
is to where does it all fit together

907
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,240
and who's playing a role in manipulating

908
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,200
or dictating what the story is but also

909
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:57,280
explore the belief paradigms that have

910
00:42:03,910 --> 00:41:59,839
evolved during the course of this this

911
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,920
history of ufos and abductions on the

912
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:05,040
planet

913
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:06,560
so when we were thinking about an

914
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,680
authority

915
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,200
that could best deliver some of the

916
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:12,000
messages in the film we we we said we

917
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,550
could deliver

918
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:20,640
uh but you know it was it was in all

919
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:23,599
seriousness we wanted somebody who

920
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:26,079
who had a passion for

921
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:29,119
the the subject matter but also could

922
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,760
give a discerning delivery of some of

923
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:33,680
the messages that are in the film and

924
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:35,680
and you were really kind of our number

925
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:36,960
one with a bullet

926
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:40,800
well and and the opportunity to

927
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:43,760
uh narrate uh you know a major release

928
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,960
like this

929
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:46,079
for me

930
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:48,319
i mean it's an honor and a privilege and

931
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:50,960
i and i take it very seriously

932
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:54,640
but it was so much fun uh for for me to

933
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,440
do

934
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:57,440
and i'll let the audience know john and

935
00:43:02,470 --> 00:42:59,359
i uh we

936
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,480
we we did two versions of the narration

937
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:04,319
we did the jimmy version

938
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:07,520
uh which which sucked and then we we

939
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,950
and uh um

940
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:14,000
uh

941
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:15,520
you know so funny you know the jimmy

942
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,800
version ufos are back and they're pissed

943
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:20,079
off

944
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,800
right

945
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:22,240
so um

946
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:23,760
so

947
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:30,000
he's the director of the film

948
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:33,839
so we were uh able to go back

949
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:36,800
and do the narration with direction and

950
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:40,880
i've always wanted to do that to just

951
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,160
have a

952
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:43,760
director

953
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:46,640
guide me through it and say that's good

954
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:48,400
that's great let's change up a little

955
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:50,319
bit you you know i wanted to go through

956
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:51,839
that process

957
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:54,160
and and we did and it was so much fun

958
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:55,440
and i remember

959
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:56,720
uh

960
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:59,280
john is in another continent right and

961
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:00,640
so we did this

962
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:04,720
uh via uh teleconferencing but um at the

963
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,520
end of this you were worn out john i was

964
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:09,359
looking at it

965
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,800
i think it was like four in the morning

966
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,720
as it is for me right now it's 4 40

967
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:16,720
right now for me in the morning so

968
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,599
i had my cup of coffee ready to go

969
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:21,440
jack one of the things i'll say one of

970
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:23,040
the things i'll do i'll quickly say

971
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:24,960
about that process is that you were

972
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:27,680
great because you brought a lot of

973
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:30,079
alternatives to the read

974
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:30,800
and

975
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,960
some of the things i wanted you to say a

976
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:34,240
certain way and some of the things that

977
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,160
you said what if we do it this way i

978
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,400
liked those options better so yeah it

979
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:40,640
was very collaborative and and i think

980
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:42,720
the end result was was exactly what we

981
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:44,560
were looking for and we didn't fight

982
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:47,440
once i was hoping for the director

983
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:49,119
talent fight

984
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:50,800
you know at least once it didn't happen

985
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,599
no jack it didn't happen man and

986
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:55,440
i wish you could have seen john at the

987
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:57,040
end of this session man he was like

988
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:58,720
jimmy it's great man

989
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:01,040
i'm i'm i'm gonna go face plant in my

990
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,160
bed now i'm out but uh it was it was a

991
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,560
long process uh jack and again jack

992
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:08,560
thank you for the opportunity

993
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:12,240
um uh and i i actually want to move on

994
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,119
uh from there i'm just the narrator um

995
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,599
oh um um

996
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,440
can i say can i share one thing with the

997
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:21,920
audience though uh with you two

998
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,319
i didn't no uh hollywood has

999
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:28,640
certain standards for the titling at the

1000
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:31,040
beginning of a film right okay

1001
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:32,960
and i know that directors are always

1002
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:35,359
last right and if they don't have the

1003
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:37,119
director's name then at the end of the

1004
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,960
film he'll be the first you know i knew

1005
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,079
these things

1006
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,640
but when i get the the movie and i'm

1007
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:44,960
watching it and the first credit up on

1008
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,040
the screen is me

1009
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:48,880
i almost lost it

1010
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,240
i i i did i and and i checked on that

1011
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:55,440
and i found out that narrators are

1012
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:58,960
are titled first i didn't know that

1013
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:01,520
kind of a big deal it's a

1014
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:04,240
man i'm i'm serious i'm serious i had

1015
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:04,960
him

1016
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,150
i didn't pause it on your wall

1017
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:15,359
i did i did i did i did a screen grab

1018
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,319
okay

1019
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:18,079
oh man i got something in my throat hold

1020
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:20,800
on you guys talk to each other

1021
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:22,240
okay

1022
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:24,880
so jack um

1023
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:26,960
what did you think about

1024
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:28,880
the film oh god

1025
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:31,040
is that the best

1026
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,640
hold on jack

1027
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,560
jack it

1028
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:36,400
goes right there was

1029
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,760
the appreciation of a good show host

1030
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,359
okay

1031
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:43,040
chet so jack what did you think of the

1032
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:44,800
film i wanna

1033
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:48,319
but uh uh it's all serious

1034
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:50,880
your your contribution jack to this

1035
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:53,200
community is an important one

1036
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,240
and

1037
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:56,960
you are here not for the fun of it

1038
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:58,640
you're not certainly not here for the

1039
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:00,000
money

1040
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,960
this is uh a

1041
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:04,000
passion

1042
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:06,720
you are here for what brings you into

1043
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:13,190
well i think this whole thing for us has

1044
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,839
been a journey one big journey and when

1045
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:17,359
we started

1046
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:20,160
we i always i was always interested in

1047
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:21,599
ufos

1048
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:24,319
and that enigma right that question of

1049
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,480
what are these things because

1050
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:28,079
obviously they are there they're in the

1051
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:29,280
sky

1052
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:30,079
i

1053
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:48,720
and

1054
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:53,440
we met some people again who knew the

1055
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,280
first documentary as you know we did on

1056
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,839
stan romanik and that was the beginning

1057
00:48:01,750 --> 00:47:59,119
of the journey

1058
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,760
and as we take the audience through the

1059
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,599
journey what people really don't

1060
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:06,079
understand is that we have been through

1061
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:08,800
a journey of of our own which has been

1062
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:10,640
extremely profound

1063
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:13,440
uh and it started with the first

1064
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,520
film and it you know we use

1065
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:18,160
extraordinary as a brand for these three

1066
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:19,520
this trilogy

1067
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:20,559
um

1068
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:22,000
and it's almost become much more than

1069
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:26,079
that because it's really been this huge

1070
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:27,760
we've been connecting we've been trying

1071
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:30,720
to connect the dots in a way that layman

1072
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,680
could

1073
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:33,359
watch it and not have not been

1074
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:35,599
interested in it at all and see the

1075
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,800
first one

1076
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,640
and then say wait a minute this is

1077
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,200
really interesting and then boom the

1078
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,440
second one takes them a little deeper

1079
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,359
and then the third one kind of ties

1080
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,200
together all these pieces you know and

1081
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:49,359
says hey why the the ultimate question

1082
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:51,119
of why if this is happening why is it

1083
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:52,160
happening

1084
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,280
and

1085
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:55,200
i will go back to the narration for one

1086
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,319
second the narration for the third film

1087
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:01,200
was by far the most important narration

1088
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:02,880
that we had

1089
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,440
we had none in the first the second was

1090
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:07,520
we had narration but for the third film

1091
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:10,160
we knew how important it was

1092
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,520
because we had to tie everything

1093
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,599
together and the way we had to tell that

1094
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:15,119
story

1095
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,720
it required

1096
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:19,040
a really strong narration so again i

1097
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,640
know we you didn't want to talk about it

1098
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:22,319
anymore but i do have to say that jamie

1099
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:24,480
that was really on top of our top of our

1100
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:26,960
mind was that the narration was critical

1101
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,680
and we spent a lot of time writing that

1102
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:31,599
that narrative of where are we taking

1103
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:33,440
the audience with this so we're hoping

1104
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:35,200
that the three films

1105
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:37,440
kind of takes people on the same type of

1106
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:39,520
journey we've been on because we're not

1107
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:40,720
experts

1108
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,559
we're filmmakers and we're curious

1109
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,319
people like you know we're like the

1110
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:46,400
average joe out there in the world who's

1111
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:47,839
like what's going what what might be

1112
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:50,000
going on here right what if this is true

1113
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:51,520
right that's why the tagline what if

1114
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:54,079
this is true i don't know i'm not a

1115
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,000
government official right i'm not a

1116
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,880
researcher who's written 20 books so

1117
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:00,640
what does that mean for us having these

1118
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,400
experiences and going through this and

1119
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,400
meeting the people meeting the people

1120
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,720
we've met in these last three films has

1121
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:08,240
changed all of us

1122
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:10,800
forever and it's and that's it's been an

1123
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:12,800
incredible journey jimmy it really has

1124
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:16,240
now how uh uh this is for you jack but

1125
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:18,160
uh i want john to answer this uh

1126
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:19,760
question too

1127
00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:21,200
but um

1128
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,920
but

1129
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,160
you guys have been a part of this

1130
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,359
message and supporting the ufo community

1131
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:29,280
for quite a while now

1132
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:30,319
and

1133
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:33,520
your efforts are starting to not only be

1134
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:37,839
rewarded but get recognized and suddenly

1135
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:40,480
the world is talking about the subject

1136
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:42,640
now and the timing couldn't be better

1137
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:46,240
not only for j3 films but now this film

1138
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:48,000
is getting ready to get released oh by

1139
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:50,000
the way we'll talk about the film

1140
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:51,599
festival too we'll do that after the

1141
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:52,800
break that is

1142
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:55,839
uh that is extraordinary so we'll talk

1143
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,880
about that but but how exciting is it to

1144
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:00,960
be a part of this now

1145
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,760
with with the recognition that is going

1146
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,000
on around the world and you're you're

1147
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:08,000
part of this

1148
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:11,040
yeah it has been amazing i think that

1149
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,440
i i feel like when we first got involved

1150
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:15,520
in this the way things went down the way

1151
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:17,520
things kind of came together

1152
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:19,599
it almost felt like we were meant to do

1153
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:20,480
this

1154
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:24,400
something that we were supposed to do in

1155
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:26,319
our own way because of the way we

1156
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:28,559
thought and the experiences that we had

1157
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:30,319
and the way we wanted to present this

1158
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,839
that would be something that would be

1159
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:33,440
valuable for people

1160
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,880
the timing

1161
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:36,640
right correct i mean the things that

1162
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,160
have happened the last couple years we

1163
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:40,559
couldn't anticipate that but we always

1164
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,000
felt that it was something that was

1165
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:44,079
right around the corner that this was

1166
00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:45,760
something that needed to be talked about

1167
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:48,400
because it was going to affect all of us

1168
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:51,440
very soon in a very major way and now

1169
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,760
you can see that happening uh whether

1170
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:55,520
it's a paradigm shift in the way people

1171
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:57,040
think whether it's the way the

1172
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:59,359
government is now saying oh well by the

1173
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,599
way yeah they are real

1174
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,440
you know whatever that disclosure may or

1175
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:05,680
may not look like we don't know you know

1176
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,280
but we feel like that

1177
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:08,880
we're we're honored to have played a

1178
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:11,200
part in that as filmmakers as

1179
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,960
documentary filmmakers to kind of

1180
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:14,720
educate people and get them get them

1181
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:16,400
interested in it get them into this so

1182
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,559
it's like okay get ready because this is

1183
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:20,640
something that really is

1184
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:22,640
there's nothing more important

1185
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:23,920
the only thing that could be more

1186
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:26,640
important than possible

1187
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:29,520
extraterrestrial life visiting earth is

1188
00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:30,839
life and death

1189
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:31,760
itself yeah

1190
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:34,640
you know what seriously and e.t might

1191
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:38,079
still be above that right right

1192
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:41,119
now i i mentioned uh you know the three

1193
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:43,440
j's and j three films

1194
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:47,200
but uh there's an l involved too and and

1195
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:49,920
lori wagner and how amazing is she to

1196
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:52,000
work with oh

1197
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:55,599
she's great john you can yeah

1198
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:56,960
she's no longer

1199
00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:58,319
i'll just say this and then i'll let

1200
00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:00,079
john take it but one of the sweetest

1201
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:01,839
people i've ever met one of the most

1202
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:03,920
committed people to this field that i've

1203
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,960
ever met and she's so enthusiastic about

1204
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:09,119
everything she does

1205
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:11,440
about and she wants to do it right and

1206
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,880
that you can't

1207
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:14,640
do you can't put a price on that i mean

1208
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,240
lori's amazing she's become a dear

1209
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,319
friend to all of us and i'll leave it at

1210
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:19,920
that john go because i know you have a

1211
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:21,520
lot to say about her

1212
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:23,599
no i the the

1213
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:26,400
huge value as a human being because she

1214
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:28,000
is a caring individual and she's

1215
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:29,760
probably tearing up now listening to

1216
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:30,880
this

1217
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,000
but uh

1218
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:34,319
the the tremendous connection that we

1219
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,240
had from her with her from the first

1220
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:38,640
time we met which was on a phone call

1221
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:39,839
uh and there was there were

1222
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:41,599
circumstances with that phone call that

1223
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,160
brought us all together immediately

1224
00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:46,559
and uh ever since that day back in i

1225
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,119
think it was 2011

1226
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:51,440
the connection just manifested very

1227
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:53,040
quickly into a friendship and that

1228
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:54,559
friendship was

1229
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,680
even

1230
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,440
i think more critically important to our

1231
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:59,599
success because of her connection to so

1232
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:02,000
many people in the field

1233
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,720
and lori just made it very easy for us

1234
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:07,200
to be introduced to

1235
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:09,280
anybody and everybody in the ufology

1236
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:12,640
world and we we are indebted to her

1237
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:15,760
because of those connections and

1238
00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:18,319
like jack said her passion for

1239
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:20,800
uh making sure that these kind of

1240
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:23,680
stories are told in a way that are

1241
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:26,160
meaningful and will resonate with people

1242
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:27,440
and that's one of the things i think

1243
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,200
that we have always been

1244
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,200
uh focused on is

1245
00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:33,760
telling good stories is most important

1246
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:35,599
to us versus telling stories that

1247
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:37,200
somebody wants to

1248
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:38,960
hear in a given

1249
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:41,680
uh you know segment of an audience we've

1250
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:43,359
had conversations about that jack and i

1251
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:44,640
were talking about that just before the

1252
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:46,240
show too is that

1253
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,079
everybody has their own belief paradigm

1254
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,319
and so many people want to hear you the

1255
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,480
thing that validates what they believe

1256
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,720
but there's so many different

1257
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,640
roads to go down with this how do you

1258
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,720
serve the best one

1259
00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:00,559
and uh you know i think where laurie has

1260
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:01,839
helped us is

1261
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:04,559
the exposure to so many different people

1262
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,280
who have provided us with a lot of

1263
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:09,839
incredible insight that has helped us be

1264
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:10,880
better

1265
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:13,119
aware of what is going on and as a

1266
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:15,760
result better storytellers so yeah to

1267
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:19,520
underscore this lori is very critical to

1268
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:21,839
to our success now there's a there's

1269
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:23,920
another part to this that neither of you

1270
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,559
mentioned uh when it comes to lori

1271
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,640
um yeah she's great she's fun she's

1272
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:30,960
funny she's awesome she's all of that

1273
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:34,720
she is a crazy researcher

1274
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:35,440
she

1275
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:40,240
knows this subject inside and out

1276
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:43,280
and and and both of you do too and and

1277
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:45,280
when we went through

1278
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:47,680
uh the setup for the film uh which we'll

1279
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:50,720
uh get to after the break um your the

1280
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:53,920
both of you your knowledge into this

1281
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:57,119
is is just insane right and i feel like

1282
00:56:01,190 --> 00:56:00,240
um i don't have to i'm not here telling

1283
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:01,200
anybody

1284
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:02,880
about the past or the re i don't have to

1285
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:03,920
do that

1286
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:04,880
the

1287
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:11,280
she she's calling me and or i'm calling

1288
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:14,000
her and we're sharing him for she is on

1289
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:18,240
top of the the the the now now

1290
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:19,200
right

1291
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:22,559
she is researching and and that's what's

1292
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:24,559
critical about this this film is not

1293
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:25,760
made for

1294
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:29,200
to get your yayas out this film is made

1295
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:31,680
because of compassion and knowledge of

1296
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:33,680
the subject and and that really needs to

1297
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,799
be said for not only the three j's but

1298
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:38,640
the l

1299
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,640
for three j's

1300
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,319
three changes yeah

1301
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:44,079
and i think that one of the things that

1302
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:45,760
you know with lori too is that you know

1303
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:47,359
you have this

1304
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:50,000
the the approach is always

1305
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:52,319
she's almost like the tmz of this like

1306
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,799
she she she has like up to the minute

1307
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,040
like to the minute that's that's my

1308
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,680
point in the now now

1309
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:01,680
i mean right

1310
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,079
i'm telling you she's laughing i don't

1311
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:06,480
know how i know she's laughing right now

1312
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:09,440
but she is committed

1313
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:11,599
and that is what is so incredible now uh

1314
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:13,040
we're gonna take a break in a couple of

1315
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:16,319
seconds we got uh some breaking news

1316
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:19,280
we'll talk about this um after the break

1317
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:22,000
but uh it was finally announced and

1318
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:24,960
confirmed and we'll get to the details

1319
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:27,440
but uh i'll hand this uh who got the

1320
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:30,160
news first from the from uh the pasadena

1321
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:31,839
film festival

1322
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:34,880
was it uh i did okay john so then

1323
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:38,319
uh you got the news today the film is uh

1324
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,160
extraordinary the revelations is going

1325
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,400
to be at the pasadena film festival when

1326
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:45,040
you when you got the news

1327
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:46,400
i mean

1328
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:49,359
seriously what'd you do

1329
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:51,599
well there was a little bit of a gulp

1330
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:54,160
because we're still in post and the

1331
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:57,359
screening is in like three weeks so

1332
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:59,040
we're we're wrapping everything up so it

1333
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:00,319
gives us

1334
00:58:05,589 --> 00:58:02,720
the after burners we were accepted with

1335
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:05,599
a work in progress review of the film so

1336
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:07,280
they loved it enough

1337
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:09,760
you know if it went un unfinished so

1338
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,839
it's got to be

1339
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,359
got to be good by the time we're done so

1340
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:15,200
we're we're scrambling to get that all

1341
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:17,760
wrapped up this week so this is uh

1342
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:19,760
that's my focus really is making sure

1343
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:21,599
that we get it done right but excited

1344
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:23,920
that we have an opportunity to

1345
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:26,960
have not only it at pasadena but this is

1346
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:28,559
going to be the world premiere of the

1347
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:31,119
film so we're really stoked at that and

1348
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:31,920
and

1349
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:34,000
anybody that's interested in in joining

1350
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:36,000
us for the premiere i'm coming in from

1351
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,960
south africa joe's uh jack is coming in

1352
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,319
from

1353
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:42,480
orlando i believe

1354
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,799
jamie is coming in from new jersey and

1355
00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:46,240
lori definitely is coming up from san

1356
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,319
diego so we'll be there we'll have other

1357
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:50,240
people there join us as well jimmy i

1358
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:52,319
believe you'll be there i think

1359
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,880
it's down the street so yeah i think i

1360
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,720
can make it i think

1361
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,160
and we'd have to you know all you all

1362
00:59:02,630 --> 00:59:00,319
the listeners that are in in southern

1363
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:02,640
california or the southwest that are up

1364
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:05,520
for a journey you know come to pasadena

1365
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:08,240
it's the week of the the ninth i think

1366
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:10,559
through the 16th is the festival and i

1367
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:11,920
just found out today that our screening

1368
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:13,839
is definitely going to be on saturday

1369
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:15,680
the 11th

1370
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:18,160
and we we have a prime evening spot too

1371
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:20,000
so it's in smack dab in the middle of

1372
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:21,119
the weekend

1373
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:22,400
everybody can go out and have a good

1374
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:23,760
time or may even do a little bit of a

1375
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:26,000
pre-funk before so we have a chance to

1376
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:27,599
meet and hang out with people that want

1377
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,119
to attend yeah it's going to be great

1378
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:31,760
and jack what what'd you do man when you

1379
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,760
got the news today

1380
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:35,520
i was thrilled because i you know

1381
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:38,960
pasadena we love pasadena and they they

1382
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:41,200
do a great job with their festival

1383
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:43,680
and it's it's an honor to be accepted

1384
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:45,520
again because you can't take that for

1385
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:46,559
granted

1386
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,559
you know every time is another it's a

1387
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:51,119
different film and they they want

1388
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:53,599
quality and the fact that they said yes

1389
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:55,599
you know they accepted us means a lot to

1390
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:57,920
us so we're honored we're thrilled and i

1391
01:00:02,309 --> 00:59:59,680
love going i always love coming to

1392
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:02,319
southern california and pasadena's

1393
01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:03,520
beautiful

1394
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:05,680
incredible place so we're really excited

1395
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,200
and you know what we're really excited

1396
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:09,200
to see a lot of people we haven't been

1397
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:10,880
able to see in a really long time

1398
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:13,040
including yourself jimmy yeah so we're

1399
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:15,680
really excited it's been

1400
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:18,079
it's been almost two years since uh we

1401
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:19,680
have seen each other

1402
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,160
it was it was february 2020. wasn't it

1403
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:26,400
right am i right i think so i think it

1404
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two and a half years ago yeah wow

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wow well there was disclosure fess too

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right i

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don't there might have been a few people

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there uh i wasn't there i don't think

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jack was there lori i think was there

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lori lori shot me with the camera there

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too as well who was running the camera

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that day

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that was probably patrick

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you know what it's it's so long ago now

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it's it's it's just crazy to me

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all right let's take our break

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our guest tonight we have john sumple

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and jack roth we are announcing their

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new film it is called

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extraordinary the revelations more with

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tonight jack roth john sumple director

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executive producer

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of their new film it is called

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extraordinary the revelations now right

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before the break we were talking about

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the pasadena film festival and the film

1540
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is going to do its world premiere

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01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,880
saturday september 11th um and we're

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01:07:23,589 --> 01:07:21,119
going to make these announcements uh the

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when and where um as

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as

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01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:26,640
uh they get firmed up and settled but

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we'll make those announcements on social

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01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:31,599
media and i'm assuming the pasadena film

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festival website will have all the

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absolutely

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01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:44,870
john is a man of many words what about

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01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:47,280
typing in the in the chat so oh you're

1552
01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:48,799
hanging out in the chat i haven't i

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01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:50,160
haven't been over there are they

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01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:51,839
behaving

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um uh red carpet i have to ask red

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01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:01,599
carpet yeah sure absolutely and uh

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01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:03,920
what's the attire

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01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:06,240
oh whatever is comfortable i have uh

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01:08:11,109 --> 01:08:08,160
it's not it's not that big i have one of

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pee wee herman's uh suits i might i

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might i might wear that

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um but this

1563
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:18,000
this has got to be pretty exciting and

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01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,239
uh uh the

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01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:22,400
the fader knots are gonna be there and

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and just announcing this and and uh for

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them i everything that i do just like

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you two

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um and j3 films is is for the community

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and and i just can't wait for this now

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that's the world premiere

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01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:40,400
um what about uh the rest of the world

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and and a release date do we have that

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01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:44,239
yet

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yeah but before i get to that little

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suspense

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for the pasadena film festival uh one of

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the things that i would recommend people

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look into so there's there's two options

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here

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you can wait and get tickets when they

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go on sale for the individual

1583
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:01,920
ticket sales for individual movies or

1584
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you can get a festival pass

1585
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the and this is something that we went

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through when we were in the festival a

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couple years back that uh there's no

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guarantee for anybody that buys a ticket

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the day of the only way that you can

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guarantee that you're getting in

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is if you attend or if you if you

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purchase a festival pass and and the

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cost is it's a higher obviously yes but

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i think it's like 35-ish dollars for a

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festival pass and a single film is i

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think in the 12 to 15 dollar range don't

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quote me on that but it's in that it's

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kind of like that but the last thing we

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would want to do is have people

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traveling from long distances and then

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uh not uh be able to get in if they

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didn't buy a pass so

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that they could expand it to a larger

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theater if enough people want to come so

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01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:49,120
if if if the fader nuts are ready to

1606
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come in droves um you know come on down

1607
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:53,679
and make sure you get your tickets ahead

1608
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:55,920
of time and just go to the festival uh

1609
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,400
website to either purchase i think the

1610
01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:00,560
individual show passes will be available

1611
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:02,880
end of this week maybe

1612
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:05,520
next week but you can buy festival

1613
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:07,199
passes now so that's that's just a

1614
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:08,560
little housekeeping i want to make sure

1615
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,520
i got out of the way but as far as the

1616
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:13,679
the premiere of the film

1617
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:16,480
the official launch date drum roll

1618
01:10:21,669 --> 01:10:19,920
is november 30th tuesday november 30th

1619
01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:21,679
it will be available on streaming

1620
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:24,400
platforms uh as a pay-per-view event

1621
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:27,760
initially and then it will roll out

1622
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:30,239
whatever the the distributor 1091 takes

1623
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:32,159
care of all those details but

1624
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:34,080
uh we've been told

1625
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:36,320
our launch date is a go for november

1626
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:39,520
30th how exciting is this now

1627
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:41,760
um at uh

1628
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:44,800
i've been to a few film festivals

1629
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,440
and after the film uh shows

1630
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:51,679
usually they bring the director up for a

1631
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:53,280
q a

1632
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:55,360
right are you gonna do that

1633
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,800
we'll all be up there you'll be up there

1634
01:10:59,590 --> 01:10:58,480
too oh no

1635
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,600
way

1636
01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:01,199
jack

1637
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,080
questions

1638
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:05,840
yeah that's awesome in it yeah we love

1639
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:07,760
that we love doing that because it's

1640
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:10,560
really it's so much fun and and we get

1641
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:12,480
great questions always from the audience

1642
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,480
and we love talking about this and we

1643
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:16,480
can talk about this all day and night so

1644
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:19,840
for us it's just really exciting

1645
01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:22,239
ye bleeping ha

1646
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:24,080
right

1647
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:27,040
oh man that is just awesome okay

1648
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:28,800
all right yeah so you might get a couple

1649
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:31,120
questions coming your way yeah all right

1650
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:32,960
all right i'm down for that i'm ready

1651
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:35,120
man i am so ready for this all right

1652
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:37,440
let's let's talk about the film now

1653
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:38,560
um

1654
01:11:45,350 --> 01:11:41,840
we can uh get to the cast in in a little

1655
01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:45,360
bit and that that blew my mind also

1656
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:47,920
all right let me jump ahead for a second

1657
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:50,880
clifford stone appears in this film

1658
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:51,920
and

1659
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:54,719
i i don't know maybe you guys know is

1660
01:12:00,070 --> 01:11:57,280
this the last

1661
01:12:01,669 --> 01:12:00,080
film that he he was in before he he

1662
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:01,679
passed

1663
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:03,920
i think he had been in a couple of other

1664
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:06,400
things as well we interviewed him it's

1665
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:09,280
been a while back it's been over around

1666
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:10,560
two years ago

1667
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:11,840
uh so it

1668
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:15,840
that interview was done then and uh he

1669
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:17,440
i think i've seen a couple of things

1670
01:12:23,430 --> 01:12:21,120
that he was in after that but such a

1671
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:23,440
that was one of the highlights for us as

1672
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:26,880
a as a crew sitting with him that was a

1673
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:29,199
it was like a holy grail moment yeah

1674
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:31,199
jack feels the same way

1675
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:33,040
john we think alike i can't believe that

1676
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:34,400
i was just thinking that was like that's

1677
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:36,400
the holy grail of

1678
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:37,280
this

1679
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:38,480
uh

1680
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:41,280
being able to sit with clifford for what

1681
01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:43,360
10 hours i mean we really spent a lot of

1682
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:45,440
time with him right

1683
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:47,840
and hear his story and see the emotion

1684
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:51,920
on his face up close that to me

1685
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:54,719
was the ultimate in

1686
01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:55,840
in

1687
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:58,400
that's where the rubber meets the road

1688
01:13:02,709 --> 01:12:59,360
because

1689
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:02,719
those are the stories that i think are

1690
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:04,880
matter most because from the standpoint

1691
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:07,199
of here you have ex-military guys

1692
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:09,120
who love their country

1693
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:11,600
right fought for their country did what

1694
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:13,760
they had to for their country coming out

1695
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:15,040
and then saying

1696
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:17,280
i was involved in this program that

1697
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:19,040
involved ets

1698
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:22,080
and to sit there and listen to them

1699
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:24,000
the emotions come out of them because

1700
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:25,520
it's really hard on many levels there's

1701
01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:27,120
a lot of emotions there's a little bit

1702
01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:28,960
of anger but there's a little bit of

1703
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:31,679
fear and when you see this up close when

1704
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,520
you're sitting there with him i was i

1705
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:35,520
felt so honored to be able to i'm glad

1706
01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:37,679
we sat with him john because

1707
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:41,199
you know these guys don't live forever

1708
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:44,400
no they don't it was for me

1709
01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:48,080
uh to do uh to watch the film and of

1710
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:49,920
course cut the narration

1711
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:53,920
and and go through those parts um uh i i

1712
01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:55,840
i i had

1713
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:58,640
i have admired him for so long i'm

1714
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,239
getting choked up just thinking about

1715
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:02,960
this yeah but i mean just a big amount

1716
01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:05,040
of respect and then

1717
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:09,040
i watching the film it was it was tough

1718
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:12,000
man working on the film and certainly

1719
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:13,520
you guys going through the editing

1720
01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:16,000
process and looking at the footage

1721
01:14:20,149 --> 01:14:18,000
it's just got to be tough on you john

1722
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:20,159
were you

1723
01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:22,400
yeah there there was i mean

1724
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:24,400
being in the present it really was i

1725
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:26,000
felt like that we were setting up for

1726
01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,480
the interview and when and we asked

1727
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:30,320
clifford to come about an hour after we

1728
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:32,480
were setting up and when he entered it

1729
01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:34,719
was it was like you're in the presence

1730
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,080
of royalty

1731
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:39,120
and and he's a very humble man he

1732
01:14:42,790 --> 01:14:40,560
doesn't feel

1733
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:42,800
that way at all but the people who

1734
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:44,960
understand his role respect the hell out

1735
01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,520
of him and we respected him tremendously

1736
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:49,199
and and were honored that he would give

1737
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:51,040
up give us the time that he did and we

1738
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:52,640
spent several hours with him but it

1739
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,400
wasn't just about the interview with him

1740
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:56,480
it was the conversations in between some

1741
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:58,960
of the takes it was conversations before

1742
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:01,040
and and mostly the conversations

1743
01:15:05,830 --> 01:15:03,840
afterward it was emotional i think there

1744
01:15:09,110 --> 01:15:05,840
there were several of us

1745
01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:09,120
i i know jack was that had tears in our

1746
01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:11,440
eyes when when we were interviewing him

1747
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:13,280
when we were talking with him off the

1748
01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:16,080
camera and when we said goodbye it was

1749
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:19,280
uh it was a very powerful opportunity to

1750
01:15:23,830 --> 01:15:20,880
hear somebody who

1751
01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:23,840
who who really passionately

1752
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:26,719
believes his experiences and wants the

1753
01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:28,159
world to

1754
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:29,520
embrace them

1755
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,159
with a curiosity i know that's that's

1756
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:34,400
the awesome part i think about about

1757
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:37,120
clifford that that we all really enjoyed

1758
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:39,920
the process but going through afterwards

1759
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:41,440
and looking at all the footage and then

1760
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:43,520
once we heard of his passing it was

1761
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:46,480
i would i i definitely was upset because

1762
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:48,000
he didn't get a chance to see the

1763
01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:50,159
finished product so that that was

1764
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:52,400
bothersome so clifford if you're if

1765
01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:53,600
you're listening

1766
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:55,360
we served it

1767
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:58,159
and we did our part to serve your story

1768
01:16:01,510 --> 01:16:00,080
in the best possible light

1769
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:01,520
there's um

1770
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:02,320
uh

1771
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:09,520
approaches three mindsets

1772
01:16:12,950 --> 01:16:10,719
um

1773
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:12,960
certainly you know filmmaking is always

1774
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:15,360
act one act two act three well you guys

1775
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:18,320
took that head on in in this case

1776
01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:20,560
um who's

1777
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:22,719
was it collaborative to approach it this

1778
01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:25,120
way whose idea was it

1779
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:27,120
to go with these three different

1780
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:33,030
yeah jack i think it was that was one of

1781
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:34,960
those things that excuse me through the

1782
01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:38,000
course of of of going through what's

1783
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:39,040
next

1784
01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:40,480
and the different conversations that

1785
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:42,400
we've had with different people it kind

1786
01:16:46,870 --> 01:16:44,239
of opened up i i couldn't say that there

1787
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:46,880
was one moment but i know that it was a

1788
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:49,760
collaborative process on our end to to

1789
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:52,239
what's the best next story to tell

1790
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:56,560
and the first let's go with um act one

1791
01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:58,719
uh uh jack

1792
01:17:02,950 --> 01:17:01,520
um let's let's talk about that what is

1793
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:02,960
act one

1794
01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:03,920
and

1795
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:09,600
well we start with history

1796
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:11,120
and that's kind of our lead into the

1797
01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:13,840
film and we we kind of do a

1798
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:15,679
as you well know jimmy because that was

1799
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:17,920
part of the narrative but uh you know we

1800
01:17:21,590 --> 01:17:20,000
talk about we go way back from the very

1801
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:21,600
beginning and we start tying things

1802
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:23,840
together and from a historic perspective

1803
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:25,760
on all of these experiences and

1804
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:27,679
sightings that people have had

1805
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:30,239
um and then it's really with the three

1806
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:32,239
paradigms so the first paradigm you

1807
01:17:36,070 --> 01:17:33,679
would call act one

1808
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:36,080
uh is um

1809
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:38,320
we talk about there was well we we

1810
01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:40,080
realize and john's right what happened

1811
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:42,239
was in all the conversations we have

1812
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:44,239
behind the scenes and all the people we

1813
01:17:47,510 --> 01:17:45,840
interview we're realizing that you know

1814
01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:47,520
there's really three schools of thought

1815
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:49,199
here and john's like well there's

1816
01:17:54,630 --> 01:17:52,800
definitely a a biblical narrative right

1817
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:54,640
that comes from this and it's very the

1818
01:17:57,910 --> 01:17:56,000
people that believe that are very

1819
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:57,920
passionate about it there's also what

1820
01:18:03,189 --> 01:18:00,239
you would call an ascension narrative

1821
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:03,199
right and and and then there's also a

1822
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:04,400
uh

1823
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:06,320
but it's it's really david jacobs who

1824
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:07,760
does this in the film who talks about

1825
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:09,600
this in the film but it's colonization

1826
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:13,199
it's the negative darker side of it so

1827
01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:17,920
and john what is it the uh what's first

1828
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:20,480
uh the the sequencing in the film is we

1829
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:22,960
start with the colonization and then

1830
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:25,360
ascension and then biblical

1831
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:28,400
right so act one so david jacobs dr

1832
01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:31,520
david jacobs who was amazing uh has done

1833
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:33,280
so much research so many years of

1834
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:35,840
research uh it's colonization and that's

1835
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:38,080
a little darker take on it and and from

1836
01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:41,440
that that take is basically that

1837
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:44,719
the ets are up to no good and uh

1838
01:18:49,030 --> 01:18:46,719
these abductions and the hybridization

1839
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:49,040
experiments are all

1840
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:50,560
very nefarious

1841
01:18:54,550 --> 01:18:52,880
and it's all leading to colonization

1842
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:54,560
almost like a takeover that these

1843
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:56,480
hybrids are going to take over for human

1844
01:18:59,110 --> 01:18:57,600
beings

1845
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:59,120
and

1846
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,199
it's really scary

1847
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:03,360
even for us to think that for anybody to

1848
01:19:09,669 --> 01:19:05,679
think that is a very scary way to look

1849
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,679
at this but there is evidence to suggest

1850
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:11,360
you know abductions are not pleasant

1851
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:13,440
experiences for people

1852
01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:16,400
uh these unexplained pregnancies are not

1853
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:18,159
pleasant experiences they're being taken

1854
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:19,360
against their will these things are

1855
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:21,679
happening against our will so there is a

1856
01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:23,600
negative element to this that we met we

1857
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:25,199
wanted to make sure that we presented

1858
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:26,800
that even though a lot of people aren't

1859
01:19:29,910 --> 01:19:28,320
going to want to hear that they're not

1860
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:29,920
going to want to see it

1861
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:30,880
it's

1862
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:34,320
what's happening so that would be the

1863
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:35,520
first

1864
01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:39,360
and uh

1865
01:19:43,270 --> 01:19:41,199
i'm going to stay on this for a second

1866
01:19:45,110 --> 01:19:43,280
uh i wanted to get to the cast and we

1867
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:45,120
can do that after the break

1868
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:46,560
you guys uh

1869
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:48,960
covered this pretty extensively in the

1870
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:51,040
seating and

1871
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:55,440
as uncomfortable as some people may be

1872
01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:58,800
in hearing this information

1873
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:01,199
it is something that has been put

1874
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:03,280
together through

1875
01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:05,360
extensive research not only by david

1876
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:07,440
jacobs but there are quite a few

1877
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:09,120
researchers that have been looking into

1878
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:11,360
this but there's another part to this

1879
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:13,120
because you said nefarious and you said

1880
01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:14,880
dark and it is

1881
01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:18,719
but i think that if you talk to any of

1882
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:20,639
the

1883
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:23,360
abductees or somebody that has gone

1884
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:25,840
through a hybrid program

1885
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:28,560
and if you ask them if they

1886
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:30,480
wouldn't have wanted this to happen to

1887
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:31,440
them

1888
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:33,520
i think that they would say no that the

1889
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:35,040
experience

1890
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:37,280
is more valuable than the negative

1891
01:20:40,629 --> 01:20:38,800
aspect from it

1892
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:40,639
and and they wouldn't want that taken

1893
01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:42,320
away from them i'm not saying that they

1894
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:46,880
would want to do it again right you know

1895
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,320
but the experience is i keep saying the

1896
01:20:54,470 --> 01:20:52,080
word extraordinary

1897
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:54,480
and and they don't want that taken away

1898
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:56,080
from them

1899
01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:01,590
my response would be i think they come

1900
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:03,360
to terms with it i think that it's a

1901
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:05,120
horrible experience at the beginning

1902
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:07,760
obviously and i think that for certain

1903
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:09,920
people certainly a good a good number of

1904
01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:11,840
people who have had these experience

1905
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:13,280
they come to terms with a couple of

1906
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:15,600
things first of all there's a love for a

1907
01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:16,719
child

1908
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:19,199
that a mother or a father will always

1909
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:21,440
have so if you have one of these

1910
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:22,880
unexplained pregnancies and you're part

1911
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:25,360
of a hybridization program

1912
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:27,520
you're always going to love that child

1913
01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:29,360
that child is yours so if they are

1914
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:31,600
having these hybrid children that's a

1915
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:33,199
that part of it is always going to be a

1916
01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:35,840
beautiful thing that love for a child

1917
01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:38,400
and i think that people's people really

1918
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:40,480
struggle upfront with this

1919
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:43,199
and i think a number of them are able to

1920
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:45,360
get to a good place with it

1921
01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:47,120
and i think that's important for people

1922
01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:48,639
to understand because yeah and that's a

1923
01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:49,840
great i'm glad you brought that up

1924
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:52,480
because it is it's negative up front

1925
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:54,080
but we're trying to determine is it

1926
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:55,440
negative all the way through is it

1927
01:21:58,870 --> 01:21:56,400
really that

1928
01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:58,880
end game that david jacobs talks about

1929
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:00,880
dr jacobs is very adamant about it is

1930
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:03,360
that hey we're in trouble

1931
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:05,600
nothing good is going to come from this

1932
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:07,199
a lot of people again don't like to hear

1933
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:09,760
that a lot of people personally have

1934
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:12,639
gone through it and and kind of in there

1935
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:14,239
in order to deal with these

1936
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:16,800
extraordinary experiences have put it in

1937
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:19,679
a more positive light yeah and and not

1938
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:21,120
everybody gets to go through that

1939
01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:23,520
experience that is something that is in

1940
01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:25,280
a strange way

1941
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:28,159
is is precious right you went through

1942
01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:30,239
that not everybody else gets to do that

1943
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:33,280
it's kind of you know you compare it to

1944
01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:35,360
some negative experience like uh you

1945
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:37,280
know going to prison

1946
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:40,239
okay well that sucked right but not

1947
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:41,760
everybody gets to go through that

1948
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:43,120
experience

1949
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:44,320
right

1950
01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:46,880
and to share that now i'm not saying

1951
01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:49,120
it's it's fun and the abduction

1952
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:51,760
phenomenon is fun but this is something

1953
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:52,400
that

1954
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:55,600
not everybody gets to do and you don't

1955
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:58,000
want that experience taken away from you

1956
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,440
in the end

1957
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:01,360
okay all right you get to look back

1958
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:03,600
you're still here right you get you get

1959
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:05,520
to share the experience

1960
01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:06,800
um

1961
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:07,600
so

1962
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:08,400
you

1963
01:23:14,629 --> 01:23:12,800
john

1964
01:23:15,910 --> 01:23:14,639
i do i think it's there's a double-edged

1965
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:15,920
sword to that though there's the

1966
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:17,760
experience to say that you have seen

1967
01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:21,440
something that others haven't and in in

1968
01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:22,719
the different people that we've talked

1969
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:25,280
to that have had these experiences uh

1970
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:26,639
they're challenged by it robert

1971
01:23:31,030 --> 01:23:29,040
fullington comes to mind uh from the

1972
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:31,040
last film uh

1973
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:33,040
during our ongoing conversations and

1974
01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:35,760
still when and engaging with him on

1975
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:37,920
social media and seeing the things that

1976
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:40,639
he says is it he has this constant kind

1977
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:43,520
of storyline of if only you could see

1978
01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:46,239
what i'm seeing what i've seen what i

1979
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:47,040
know

1980
01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:49,760
and it's frustrating to some people

1981
01:23:52,709 --> 01:23:51,520
who've had these experiences and these

1982
01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:52,719
insights to

1983
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:54,800
uh to connect with people who don't

1984
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:57,040
relate to what they have experienced

1985
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:58,800
right so there's that part of the other

1986
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,199
part of it is that it's isolating it can

1987
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:03,600
be very isolating when you're alone or

1988
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:05,120
you're or you're talking with somebody

1989
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:07,280
who doesn't get it or doesn't empathize

1990
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:10,480
or sympathize or connect with your

1991
01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:12,560
experience being unique to you that's

1992
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:13,920
the biggest challenge i think they have

1993
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:15,600
is the isolation that comes with it and

1994
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:17,120
the ridicule that could potentially

1995
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:18,880
follow once they find their tribe

1996
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:20,159
they're good and that really was one of

1997
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:22,080
the messages of the last film was let's

1998
01:24:26,070 --> 01:24:23,760
help these people find their tribe

1999
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:26,080
connect find ways to talk make sure if

2000
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:27,360
you've had an experience and you don't

2001
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:28,639
know who to talk to to reach out to

2002
01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:31,600
somebody to find others who can truly

2003
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:33,199
understand what you've gone through and

2004
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:36,080
and help you better understand and put

2005
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:38,000
it in a place where it can be something

2006
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:39,520
like jack was saying that you can

2007
01:24:43,750 --> 01:24:41,360
embrace and you've come to the you know

2008
01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:43,760
through the experience to understand why

2009
01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:45,920
you why me you know that type of thing

2010
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:48,560
yeah it's very it's it's a very uh i

2011
01:24:52,709 --> 01:24:50,880
think it's a double-edged

2012
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:52,719
uh sword in the sense that the

2013
01:24:57,669 --> 01:24:54,960
experience is profound but yet

2014
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:57,679
how you manage it is sometimes

2015
01:25:02,310 --> 01:24:59,679
disturbing and troublesome

2016
01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:02,320
now i don't want to give away uh too

2017
01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:04,239
much of the film

2018
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:06,560
and i want to jump into act two

2019
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:08,000
but uh

2020
01:25:14,070 --> 01:25:11,040
the biblical and religious aspect of

2021
01:25:15,669 --> 01:25:14,080
this i'm personally being challenged

2022
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:15,679
more and more

2023
01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:19,679
um what may really be going on here and

2024
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:22,080
my views haven't changed

2025
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:24,560
but it's getting more interesting

2026
01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:28,239
um and so as you approached john the the

2027
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:30,239
biblical side right

2028
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:32,719
of this how did how did you it's about

2029
01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:35,040
as sensitive of an issue

2030
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:37,679
as as we can have when it comes to et

2031
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:39,120
and ufos

2032
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:41,120
it's a whole new it can be its own movie

2033
01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:43,760
it could be its own series it could be

2034
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:46,239
an ongoing channel of content because

2035
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:47,280
it's

2036
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:51,360
think biblical they think religion but

2037
01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:53,600
the biblical narrative is far from

2038
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:55,280
religion you know a lot of the people

2039
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:56,880
who are would consider themselves to be

2040
01:26:02,629 --> 01:26:00,480
biblical scholars in ufology are not

2041
01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:02,639
religious or they don't look at it from

2042
01:26:07,030 --> 01:26:04,639
a religious perspective they look at it

2043
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:07,040
from a biblical narrative perspective

2044
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:09,440
and in talking with both la marzulli and

2045
01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:12,400
timothy albarino who are in the film

2046
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:15,840
they both say the bible is right is 100

2047
01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:18,159
of the time that the bible is right 100

2048
01:26:22,229 --> 01:26:20,639
of the time so it's always right if the

2049
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:22,239
narrative has been playing out the way

2050
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:23,920
it's supposed to

2051
01:26:28,229 --> 01:26:26,159
from the very beginning of time that's

2052
01:26:30,629 --> 01:26:28,239
not to say that it's been the messages

2053
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:30,639
have been manipulated

2054
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:32,719
by people who want to control the masses

2055
01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:35,360
they they will readily admit to that but

2056
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,520
you know they don't look at it from the

2057
01:26:40,709 --> 01:26:39,040
religious point of view they look at it

2058
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:40,719
from the narrative point of view and

2059
01:26:44,149 --> 01:26:42,800
it's and it's more of a historical

2060
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:44,159
analysis

2061
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:46,000
than it is something that is spiritual

2062
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:46,719
or

2063
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,880
spiritual religion can get conflated but

2064
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,480
i said they don't look at as more as

2065
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:53,040
something as religious so when you study

2066
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:54,400
it from that point of view and there's

2067
01:26:58,950 --> 01:26:56,000
things historically that you can point

2068
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:58,960
to that say that this is you know

2069
01:27:02,709 --> 01:27:01,120
the the nephilim

2070
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:02,719
this is who they are this is who they

2071
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:04,880
were this is what they did and the fact

2072
01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:06,480
that they look at you know what's

2073
01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:09,920
happening today is very similar and it's

2074
01:27:15,430 --> 01:27:12,239
it's coming full circle in their in

2075
01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:15,440
their mind that uh you know modern day

2076
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:17,520
uh alien

2077
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:21,440
presence in is the whole idea is to to

2078
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:23,440
place the seed of the serpent

2079
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:26,480
in control and and

2080
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:27,760
i don't want to give away too too much

2081
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:28,880
of it and

2082
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:30,080
not that i'm giving away anything

2083
01:27:32,709 --> 01:27:31,360
because if you do your research it's all

2084
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:32,719
out there but the way that it's

2085
01:27:37,270 --> 01:27:35,199
presented in the film will i i think

2086
01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:37,280
gives people reason to

2087
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:39,199
think hmm

2088
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:41,120
what what what do i do with this this is

2089
01:27:44,310 --> 01:27:42,480
a perspective that i've never thought

2090
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:44,320
about before and the one thing that we

2091
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:46,000
found very interesting about the three

2092
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:48,480
different paradigms that we focused on

2093
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,679
in the film was that they all believe in

2094
01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:53,360
lights in the sky

2095
01:27:57,910 --> 01:27:56,159
sentient beings controlling those they

2096
01:27:58,830 --> 01:27:57,920
all believe in abductions they all

2097
01:28:01,990 --> 01:27:58,840
believe

2098
01:28:04,229 --> 01:28:02,000
in uh hybridization

2099
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:04,239
programs and they all believe in hybrids

2100
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:05,920
you know you don't believe in the same

2101
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:07,120
end game

2102
01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:08,960
you're you sound like you're quoting

2103
01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:11,360
from the bible right now that's the

2104
01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:15,679
trippy part right if we really if you if

2105
01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:18,639
you take the modern context of things i

2106
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:20,159
want to get this in before the break the

2107
01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:22,320
modern context you know plasma ships

2108
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:25,679
light ships uh interdimensionality

2109
01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:28,639
uh uh different route but

2110
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:32,159
voices from above channeling all of the

2111
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:36,400
the modern aspect of what we know today

2112
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:39,520
it is it is exactly

2113
01:28:43,030 --> 01:28:41,199
that way and presented that way in the

2114
01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:43,040
bible there isn't another way to look at

2115
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:46,159
it it's the same story

2116
01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:48,320
yeah it is and it's it's funny how if

2117
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:50,639
you were to look at it and compare it

2118
01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:52,719
line by line you would see

2119
01:28:56,070 --> 01:28:54,800
tremendous similarities

2120
01:28:58,070 --> 01:28:56,080
in a way that you're kind of like it's

2121
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:58,080
history's repeating itself yeah some of

2122
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:01,040
the biblical scholars that um have

2123
01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:02,960
referenced things to me let me look at

2124
01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:05,199
the clock okay 90 seconds

2125
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,239
things like okay when you talk about you

2126
01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:10,480
know the kingdom of heaven and

2127
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:12,960
and and what is being represented on

2128
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:16,320
earth as it is in heaven and you know

2129
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:18,080
things like this

2130
01:29:22,229 --> 01:29:18,960
where

2131
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:22,239
i talk to a a scholar in biblical things

2132
01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:24,159
well they will say well they're talking

2133
01:29:28,709 --> 01:29:26,080
about other planets they're talking

2134
01:29:31,030 --> 01:29:28,719
about another dimension that's just the

2135
01:29:32,070 --> 01:29:31,040
verbiage and then you look at it that

2136
01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:32,080
way

2137
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:34,719
you're like well yeah

2138
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:38,719
it it's just it's it's there

2139
01:29:42,550 --> 01:29:39,840
somebody

2140
01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:42,560
uh 2000 years ago

2141
01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:44,320
trying to

2142
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:46,000
uh um

2143
01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:49,199
verbalize and and and write out what

2144
01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:50,560
that would be

2145
01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:53,360
right kingdoms of heaven or another

2146
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:56,639
rumor that that that they wouldn't have

2147
01:30:00,550 --> 01:29:58,480
another way to do they they didn't have

2148
01:30:01,350 --> 01:30:00,560
a science fiction movie to base things

2149
01:30:02,870 --> 01:30:01,360
on

2150
01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:02,880
you know what i mean they didn't have

2151
01:30:06,229 --> 01:30:04,400
that perspective

2152
01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:06,239
and it's the way that it's written in

2153
01:30:09,510 --> 01:30:08,000
the bible and it just makes a lot of

2154
01:30:10,870 --> 01:30:09,520
sense

2155
01:30:12,709 --> 01:30:10,880
it is interesting and it's something

2156
01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:12,719
that most people think of it from a

2157
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:14,960
religious point of view but we strongly

2158
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:16,960
urge them not to

2159
01:30:21,350 --> 01:30:19,360
let's uh let's take our break right here

2160
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:21,360
let me get this in this is fade to black

2161
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:23,760
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2162
01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:25,440
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2163
01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:27,920
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2165
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2166
01:30:36,550 --> 01:30:35,199
revelations i am your host jimmy church

2167
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:36,560
we'll be right back after this short

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01:30:57,990 --> 01:30:54,870
way out here we listen to jimmy church

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headed do you wonder about the food

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supply i do disruptions in the food

2212
01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:53,760
supply chain could be disastrous and

2213
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they usually occur with little warning

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01:33:01,510 --> 01:32:58,560
that's why the smartest thing you can do

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today is to stockpile emergency food

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right do it now our guest tonight john

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simple and and jack roth now we

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01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:52,719
discussed um act one

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01:36:58,149 --> 01:36:56,400
and uh no coughing in the uh microphones

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01:36:59,990 --> 01:36:58,159
uh jack

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01:37:01,830 --> 01:37:00,000
that that was jack john that wasn't that

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wasn't near you

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01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:04,320
that wasn't me

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01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:06,480
someone else is listening uh let's let's

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01:37:10,229 --> 01:37:08,719
go to um act two and it was funny

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01:37:12,790 --> 01:37:10,239
earlier uh

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01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:12,800
when jack said john what how what did we

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01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:15,679
end up doing what was first

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01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:17,199
i'm saying what was

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01:37:22,629 --> 01:37:20,719
what uh what was act two john

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01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:22,639
well i just wanna just wanna you're

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01:37:25,750 --> 01:37:24,000
you're mentioning it in act two and just

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01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:25,760
for clarity the three acts of the film

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01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:28,159
are first act is historical second act

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01:37:31,030 --> 01:37:29,679
is paradigms and you're talking about

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01:37:34,550 --> 01:37:31,040
the three

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01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:34,560
paradigms the third act is government

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01:37:39,109 --> 01:37:36,800
related so within that second act

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01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:39,119
there's three parts there's three acts

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01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:40,639
within the three scenes within the

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01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:43,280
second act so yes in those it's par the

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01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:45,760
the paradigms are uh we've talked about

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01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:48,000
colonization with dr jacobs we've talked

2312
01:37:53,830 --> 01:37:50,560
about the biblical narrative with l.a

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01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:53,840
marzulli and timothy albarino and then

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01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:55,280
the one that we haven't talked about is

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01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:57,679
ascension and mary rodwell leads that

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01:38:02,950 --> 01:38:00,239
conversation but we have

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01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:02,960
i mean there's there's bigger pieces to

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01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:04,719
that one and i think this this is the

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01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:06,000
one that i think

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01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:08,560
is going to resonate with

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01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:10,320
i don't want to say most people but with

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01:38:14,149 --> 01:38:12,159
a lot of people because it's the one i

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01:38:15,590 --> 01:38:14,159
think people are most familiar with

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01:38:17,030 --> 01:38:15,600
people aren't as familiar with the

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01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:17,040
biblical narrative they're not as

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01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:18,880
familiar with the

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01:38:22,870 --> 01:38:20,960
the colonization and the reason why we

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01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:22,880
wanted to give these three equal weight

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01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:25,040
is so that people did know about the

2330
01:38:31,109 --> 01:38:27,040
different alternative belief structures

2331
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:31,119
around the concept of ufology and and

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01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:32,639
all believing the same thing but the

2333
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:35,199
outcomes are all very very different

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01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:37,679
and i think one of the the highlights in

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01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:39,600
the the the

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01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:41,360
the second part which is the ascension

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01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:44,400
is that we uh introduce vivian chave

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01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:46,960
who is an arcturian hybrid

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01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:49,679
and she serves a very important role in

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01:38:52,790 --> 01:38:51,520
this film because she talks about being

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01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:52,800
the bridge

2342
01:39:01,510 --> 01:38:59,280
and how hybrids are here to help people

2343
01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:01,520
with this ascension process

2344
01:39:04,629 --> 01:39:03,119
and uh

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01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:04,639
there is uh

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01:39:06,550 --> 01:39:05,440
uh

2347
01:39:08,709 --> 01:39:06,560
again

2348
01:39:10,709 --> 01:39:08,719
for for me

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01:39:13,910 --> 01:39:10,719
this film

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01:39:16,070 --> 01:39:13,920
is it's great for the ufo community

2351
01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:16,080
but for the rest of the world that has

2352
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:18,480
heard about et and contact and possible

2353
01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:20,560
life in the universe and in our milky

2354
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:23,440
way and ufos and they've seen pictures

2355
01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:26,719
but they don't necessarily know any of

2356
01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:30,400
this and how complex the issues uh truly

2357
01:39:34,229 --> 01:39:33,440
are and so when you get to an ascension

2358
01:39:37,270 --> 01:39:34,239
or

2359
01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:37,280
an octarian hybrid and and

2360
01:39:43,270 --> 01:39:41,280
the messaging from out there to here

2361
01:39:46,149 --> 01:39:43,280
most of the world has has never heard

2362
01:39:48,310 --> 01:39:46,159
about this before

2363
01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:48,320
no they haven't and it is john's right

2364
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:50,239
it is complex there's complexities

2365
01:39:53,590 --> 01:39:52,639
within each paradigm so

2366
01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:53,600
um

2367
01:39:59,669 --> 01:39:57,679
first i have to say that i feel like

2368
01:40:02,550 --> 01:39:59,679
with vivian chauvet and also chris

2369
01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:02,560
derisa who we interviewed for this

2370
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:04,960
i have to give them credit because

2371
01:40:10,629 --> 01:40:07,280
it takes a lot of courage i feel like

2372
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:10,639
the these people people who are either

2373
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:13,119
hybrids or who can communicate in some

2374
01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:15,920
kind of way with ets that have a special

2375
01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:17,920
gift if you will

2376
01:40:22,950 --> 01:40:21,199
it's it's not easy being them

2377
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:22,960
and i think they get there's a lot of

2378
01:40:26,149 --> 01:40:24,480
ridicule that comes with that because

2379
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:26,159
they're they're perceiving the world in

2380
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:28,320
a different way than we do because of a

2381
01:40:32,070 --> 01:40:30,400
of a gift or something that they're

2382
01:40:34,550 --> 01:40:32,080
capable of doing that we're not it's

2383
01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:34,560
like a psychic or intuitive

2384
01:40:37,270 --> 01:40:35,440
and

2385
01:40:38,950 --> 01:40:37,280
give them so much credit for coming on

2386
01:40:41,030 --> 01:40:38,960
and talking because that's it's it's

2387
01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:41,040
risky i think it's hard it's hard to put

2388
01:40:44,870 --> 01:40:42,960
yourself out there like that but you're

2389
01:40:48,310 --> 01:40:44,880
right though i think you know when you

2390
01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:48,320
talk about ascension

2391
01:40:54,070 --> 01:40:51,360
it's it's it's about ascension of it's

2392
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:54,080
almost like our the evolution of

2393
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:55,920
humanity

2394
01:40:59,910 --> 01:40:58,159
and you know john and i sometimes refer

2395
01:41:02,950 --> 01:40:59,920
to as love and light so it's all

2396
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:02,960
positive that all the et's are here to

2397
01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:04,480
help us ascend

2398
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:06,800
they're they're here to help us

2399
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:08,080
uh

2400
01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:10,159
get to the next step in our evolution

2401
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:11,920
the way i look at that is to become

2402
01:41:16,870 --> 01:41:14,960
cosmic neighbors right to finally get to

2403
01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:16,880
that point where we're not destroying

2404
01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:20,239
ourselves and we grow up enough to say

2405
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:22,639
it to for them to let us into that group

2406
01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:24,560
right that you know hey now you can be a

2407
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:26,320
cosmic neighbor because you're not

2408
01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:29,600
destructive and childish um so that's

2409
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:32,239
that's a big part of that but when they

2410
01:41:35,830 --> 01:41:34,239
talk about these things sometimes it's

2411
01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:35,840
you really have to listen because it's

2412
01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:37,440
it's it's interesting

2413
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:39,840
the way they talk about it even in the

2414
01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:41,840
way vivian sometimes she'll she'll start

2415
01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:43,360
talking about

2416
01:41:48,629 --> 01:41:46,400
her arcturian guides and arc

2417
01:41:50,629 --> 01:41:48,639
it i i feel like it'll challenge some

2418
01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:50,639
people because they'll be like what does

2419
01:41:54,629 --> 01:41:52,719
that mean or how does that work

2420
01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:54,639
but i think the important message there

2421
01:41:59,750 --> 01:41:57,440
and the message we got from them is that

2422
01:42:01,990 --> 01:41:59,760
we have to understand that there are

2423
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:02,000
et's out there

2424
01:42:06,950 --> 01:42:04,960
without question who are benevolent

2425
01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:06,960
and they're trying to help us and i

2426
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:09,199
think that we can all wrap our heads

2427
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:11,920
around that the only part that i that

2428
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:14,000
some of us would say well there's also

2429
01:42:17,109 --> 01:42:15,040
maybe

2430
01:42:18,550 --> 01:42:17,119
malevolent et's that there's some ets

2431
01:42:20,629 --> 01:42:18,560
out there that really don't care about

2432
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:20,639
our well-being and i think it really in

2433
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:23,280
the end it's a combination of both but i

2434
01:42:27,030 --> 01:42:24,960
i feel like that the ascension part of

2435
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:27,040
the film is going to be the warm and

2436
01:42:30,709 --> 01:42:28,960
fuzzy part of the film to make people

2437
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:30,719
are going to feel good about that and

2438
01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:32,880
and there's a lot to be said for it

2439
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:35,199
very um when um

2440
01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:36,800
somebody

2441
01:42:41,910 --> 01:42:38,080
uh uh

2442
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:41,920
sent me a screen grab of the cast uh

2443
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:44,080
with the comment like holy crap how did

2444
01:42:48,870 --> 01:42:46,000
you guys pull this off

2445
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:48,880
and and i didn't realize wagner yeah

2446
01:42:53,910 --> 01:42:51,280
ryan laurie wagner

2447
01:42:55,590 --> 01:42:53,920
oh she just texted me and said thank you

2448
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:55,600
by the way um

2449
01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:56,639
but

2450
01:43:01,189 --> 01:42:58,719
there are you know billy carson you know

2451
01:43:03,669 --> 01:43:01,199
great richard dolan and david jacobs

2452
01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:03,679
melinda leslie la marzulli nick pope

2453
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:07,600
george nori mary rodwell um and and of

2454
01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:08,880
course clifford stone who we talked

2455
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:11,040
about but there are a couple of other

2456
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:14,239
uh pretty good gets in this um

2457
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:17,360
uh which i was totally blown away one is

2458
01:43:21,189 --> 01:43:20,080
lin buchanan

2459
01:43:23,350 --> 01:43:21,199
right

2460
01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:23,360
and that was a big that was a big game

2461
01:43:30,149 --> 01:43:26,960
that's a big get right there um

2462
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:30,159
uh you know lin's past and this is and

2463
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:32,560
for the audience who may not know who

2464
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:34,880
lin buchanan is

2465
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:36,960
uh john let me let me throw that over to

2466
01:43:40,870 --> 01:43:39,760
you uh tell everybody who

2467
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:40,880
uh

2468
01:43:46,550 --> 01:43:43,360
lynne buchanan and his importance to not

2469
01:43:50,390 --> 01:43:46,560
only ufology in this community but but

2470
01:43:54,629 --> 01:43:52,629
well the the the the

2471
01:43:57,189 --> 01:43:54,639
easiest connection that we can make is

2472
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:57,199
that uh the movie the manuscript goats

2473
01:44:01,510 --> 01:43:59,280
was basically based on the whole remote

2474
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:01,520
viewing project with lynn kind of being

2475
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:03,040
a central point

2476
01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:06,080
in that and and the remote viewing was

2477
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:08,639
definitely a a

2478
01:44:12,629 --> 01:44:10,800
a legitimate government

2479
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:12,639
intelligence resource

2480
01:44:16,709 --> 01:44:13,920
gathering

2481
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:16,719
outfit uh troop

2482
01:44:21,510 --> 01:44:19,440
what's the word uh

2483
01:44:24,550 --> 01:44:21,520
uh and what they they talked we talked

2484
01:44:25,990 --> 01:44:24,560
about in the project right project so

2485
01:44:27,590 --> 01:44:26,000
these people were

2486
01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:27,600
one of the things that that lin says in

2487
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:30,560
the film that to me is

2488
01:44:33,990 --> 01:44:32,159
just if you ever were questioning

2489
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:34,000
whether the government or military was

2490
01:44:38,629 --> 01:44:36,400
involved and aware he said that

2491
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:38,639
five times during the course of his

2492
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:40,639
involvement during the military his

2493
01:44:45,910 --> 01:44:43,360
group was disbanded and reclassified the

2494
01:44:47,189 --> 01:44:45,920
next day each time after it was it was

2495
01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:47,199
disbanded

2496
01:44:51,189 --> 01:44:48,560
that tells you

2497
01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:51,199
very clearly that the government valued

2498
01:44:54,550 --> 01:44:53,280
the work that they were doing

2499
01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:54,560
and they did it

2500
01:45:00,870 --> 01:44:58,000
consistently and had a an 85 plus

2501
01:45:03,590 --> 01:45:00,880
accuracy record with the work that they

2502
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:03,600
were doing so to have somebody talk

2503
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:05,920
about and and lynn holds the cards very

2504
01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:07,600
close to his chest

2505
01:45:11,030 --> 01:45:09,679
uh we're not going to get him to come

2506
01:45:15,669 --> 01:45:11,040
he always has

2507
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:15,679
did share

2508
01:45:20,870 --> 01:45:17,040
in the film

2509
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:20,880
is is profound in what he doesn't say

2510
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:21,760
so

2511
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:22,800
it makes it

2512
01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:24,400
you can make

2513
01:45:31,270 --> 01:45:29,360
small steps to the the realities based

2514
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:31,280
on what he does share in the film

2515
01:45:35,430 --> 01:45:33,280
and uh uh

2516
01:45:36,950 --> 01:45:35,440
uh jack when you

2517
01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:36,960
i don't know how much you knew about

2518
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:39,280
lynn uh before the film

2519
01:45:45,109 --> 01:45:42,239
but uh his importance cannot be measured

2520
01:45:48,470 --> 01:45:45,119
number one but but the other part

2521
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:48,480
is we know about ingo swan right and hal

2522
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:50,239
put off and we can

2523
01:45:55,590 --> 01:45:52,480
uh uh russell targ

2524
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:55,600
and the other piece to this to this

2525
01:45:58,390 --> 01:45:57,280
puzzle and probably one of the most

2526
01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:58,400
important ones

2527
01:46:04,790 --> 01:46:01,520
is lynn buchanan he was there he was in

2528
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:04,800
the middle of all of this at every level

2529
01:46:10,830 --> 01:46:08,560
and he is talented right i mean he's got

2530
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:10,840
he's got real talent

2531
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:14,480
um sergeant lynn buchanan uh

2532
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:18,080
what did what did you learn from lynn

2533
01:46:21,189 --> 01:46:20,320
well i learned that he's a very humble

2534
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:21,199
man

2535
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:23,199
and he doesn't like to take credit for

2536
01:46:26,950 --> 01:46:24,480
much

2537
01:46:28,870 --> 01:46:26,960
uh it's almost like he's incredibly laid

2538
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:28,880
back for considering what he's done in

2539
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:29,920
his life

2540
01:46:34,470 --> 01:46:32,320
right but he's he's

2541
01:46:37,430 --> 01:46:34,480
he's gracious

2542
01:46:39,590 --> 01:46:37,440
he'll absolutely talk to you forever

2543
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:39,600
there are things he won't say

2544
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:41,600
but for us it was like we were trying to

2545
01:46:45,910 --> 01:46:43,679
get to that one thing of what's that we

2546
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:45,920
wanted to make that connect

2547
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:46,960
government

2548
01:46:50,470 --> 01:46:49,440
et's these projects right these black

2549
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:50,480
projects

2550
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:52,880
and he does it in a way

2551
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:54,960
that he knows

2552
01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:56,800
but you know he wasn't again not gonna

2553
01:46:59,990 --> 01:46:58,000
say a lot

2554
01:47:01,830 --> 01:47:00,000
but he said enough that the audience

2555
01:47:04,629 --> 01:47:01,840
will see when they when they watch the

2556
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:04,639
film and i i think he's just a fantastic

2557
01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:06,480
human being and and and you're right

2558
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:08,800
he's he's so talented he has to but he

2559
01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:12,800
he underplays that he so does he does it

2560
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:15,520
with everything well it was what we did

2561
01:47:19,669 --> 01:47:17,920
you know it was right and he said he's

2562
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:19,679
but he's just so and you're there and

2563
01:47:22,550 --> 01:47:21,119
and him and his wife they just make you

2564
01:47:24,790 --> 01:47:22,560
feel so comfortable

2565
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:24,800
um and that that was a highlight we keep

2566
01:47:28,390 --> 01:47:26,639
saying that every time you bring someone

2567
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:28,400
up it was a highlight

2568
01:47:32,229 --> 01:47:30,239
everyone was a highlight that's the kind

2569
01:47:35,189 --> 01:47:32,239
of film this was to make

2570
01:47:37,350 --> 01:47:35,199
you know you know um and and and from a

2571
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:37,360
historical perspective uh you know

2572
01:47:41,189 --> 01:47:39,040
george nori has been a part of this

2573
01:47:44,229 --> 01:47:41,199
community for a long time and

2574
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:44,239
and and olympia cannon and nick pope

2575
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:47,040
and then uh you you brought uh some

2576
01:47:51,669 --> 01:47:49,600
other faces to this project and

2577
01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:51,679
introducing them to the world

2578
01:47:58,550 --> 01:47:54,639
um and i i do want to mention you know

2579
01:48:00,870 --> 01:47:58,560
billy carson where billy five years ago

2580
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:00,880
wasn't part of this community

2581
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:03,600
uh today he's a central part of this

2582
01:48:06,310 --> 01:48:04,400
community

2583
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:06,320
and what he brings

2584
01:48:12,070 --> 01:48:09,280
is not only so valuable and he's so well

2585
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:12,080
spoken but that that guy has got

2586
01:48:16,870 --> 01:48:14,320
knowledge

2587
01:48:20,709 --> 01:48:16,880
yeah we were so impressed

2588
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:20,719
so impressed with what he brought to the

2589
01:48:25,109 --> 01:48:21,760
interview

2590
01:48:27,109 --> 01:48:25,119
because there was nothing that we could

2591
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:27,119
everything was on the table he was ready

2592
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:29,920
to talk about anything and what is

2593
01:48:33,669 --> 01:48:32,239
so great about him too is the conviction

2594
01:48:35,510 --> 01:48:33,679
in what he says

2595
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:35,520
there's no there's he's not on the fence

2596
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:37,679
on anything he believes what he believes

2597
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:40,320
and it's based on his research

2598
01:48:44,149 --> 01:48:42,639
so and and that's very much appreciated

2599
01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:44,159
with everybody that we talked to

2600
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:46,639
nobody's coming at this with uh you know

2601
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:55,750
discernment i think that that some of us

2602
01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:57,440
bring to this as we go because we have

2603
01:49:01,990 --> 01:48:58,880
to do that too there's discernment that

2604
01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:02,000
we have to do uh so uh but when you talk

2605
01:49:06,310 --> 01:49:03,280
to people who are convicted and what

2606
01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:06,320
they believe it adds so much to the

2607
01:49:09,990 --> 01:49:08,239
storytelling because you're bringing a

2608
01:49:11,590 --> 01:49:10,000
perspective that

2609
01:49:13,030 --> 01:49:11,600
that will resonate with people and we

2610
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:13,040
the hardest thing with making a film

2611
01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:14,639
like this is to

2612
01:49:18,229 --> 01:49:15,679
serve

2613
01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:18,239
a broad audience uh

2614
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:21,040
because each person looking at it might

2615
01:49:26,470 --> 01:49:23,360
want something more i think i've been

2616
01:49:27,750 --> 01:49:26,480
monitoring the the the comments in chat

2617
01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:27,760
and i think people

2618
01:49:29,990 --> 01:49:29,040
are like well you guys are all over the

2619
01:49:31,030 --> 01:49:30,000
place you're talking about all these

2620
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:31,040
different things and like well we're

2621
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:32,800
trying to we're trying to cover

2622
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:34,800
everything so there's only so much you

2623
01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:36,560
can do in a short amount of time

2624
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,320
these subjects really

2625
01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:40,560
we could be on your show every night for

2626
01:49:44,629 --> 01:49:43,440
a month and and still be talking about

2627
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,639
something new

2628
01:49:48,229 --> 01:49:46,400
i think that's something that it's so

2629
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:48,239
hard for us to

2630
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:49,760
um

2631
01:49:54,229 --> 01:49:51,840
really go through the process that we've

2632
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:54,239
gone through and explain it to people is

2633
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:56,960
the information that comes to us

2634
01:50:01,510 --> 01:49:59,119
that isn't necessarily

2635
01:50:03,910 --> 01:50:01,520
captured on film but comes to us in

2636
01:50:05,850 --> 01:50:03,920
those side moments the honesty the

2637
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:05,860
purity the emotion

2638
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:07,040
[Music]

2639
01:50:12,629 --> 01:50:10,800
is it it it changes you jack i think you

2640
01:50:13,510 --> 01:50:12,639
would you would agree

2641
01:50:15,270 --> 01:50:13,520
well

2642
01:50:16,870 --> 01:50:15,280
jack i wanted to ask you about billy

2643
01:50:19,189 --> 01:50:16,880
because you're in florida billy's in

2644
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:19,199
florida so you were there for for his

2645
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:24,310
well yeah we've we actually filmed him

2646
01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:25,119
uh

2647
01:50:30,229 --> 01:50:28,320
in was it palm springs oh i thought i

2648
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:30,239
thought you got to go out to uh billy's

2649
01:50:33,430 --> 01:50:31,760
pad

2650
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:33,440
no not no and and you know it's

2651
01:50:36,470 --> 01:50:35,040
interesting i had never i had heard of

2652
01:50:38,709 --> 01:50:36,480
billy but i never

2653
01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:38,719
hear i've never heard ed hadn't heard

2654
01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:40,080
him speak

2655
01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:42,960
and was blown away by him because he was

2656
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:46,560
just so concise and so well spoken and

2657
01:50:51,030 --> 01:50:48,800
and so intelligent in the way he just

2658
01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:51,040
processed things in his mind and he

2659
01:50:54,390 --> 01:50:52,800
really added

2660
01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:54,400
another dimension that we didn't think

2661
01:50:58,070 --> 01:50:56,560
we were going to get and i remember when

2662
01:51:00,229 --> 01:50:58,080
john was going through the footage with

2663
01:51:02,550 --> 01:51:00,239
the editing he's like you know billy's

2664
01:51:04,629 --> 01:51:02,560
incredible and and he kept saying and

2665
01:51:06,629 --> 01:51:04,639
and i he we'd have these conversations

2666
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:06,639
and it was like you know nick was

2667
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:08,400
incredible uh you know mary was

2668
01:51:12,470 --> 01:51:10,880
incredible and it go on and on i do want

2669
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:12,480
to give a quick shout out to richard

2670
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:15,280
dolan uh because he's our he's

2671
01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:18,960
we love him and he's just encyclopedia

2672
01:51:21,830 --> 01:51:20,400
there's not enough i can say about

2673
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:21,840
richard but i definitely wanted to give

2674
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:23,360
him a shout out because he's been our

2675
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:25,280
last two films it's been a big part of

2676
01:51:31,270 --> 01:51:28,639
the last two films and i feel like

2677
01:51:33,270 --> 01:51:31,280
i i always go back to his books the ufos

2678
01:51:35,669 --> 01:51:33,280
in the national security state part one

2679
01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:35,679
and two as if i had to tell anyone who

2680
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:37,599
was getting into this field

2681
01:51:41,589 --> 01:51:39,840
read those two books first that's how

2682
01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:41,599
important those two books are in my

2683
01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:44,560
opinion so big big shout out to richard

2684
01:51:50,149 --> 01:51:47,119
who's also in the film yeah no doubt

2685
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:50,159
about that and uh check this out

2686
01:51:54,070 --> 01:51:52,320
i'm going to egypt in a few months with

2687
01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:54,080
billy carson

2688
01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:56,239
oh very cool yeah man

2689
01:52:00,629 --> 01:51:58,800
i i you know he he's there right now

2690
01:52:03,430 --> 01:52:00,639
he's in egypt right now

2691
01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:03,440
uh doing a little a prep for our trip

2692
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:04,880
that's coming up but

2693
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:08,800
but how cool is it going to be to have

2694
01:52:12,550 --> 01:52:09,840
uh

2695
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:12,560
to to to follow him into a temple

2696
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:15,599
complex and to listen to what he has to

2697
01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:16,560
say

2698
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:19,440
about uh this journey uh that we're

2699
01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:20,639
we're going to go on we're going to be

2700
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:24,159
there for uh 14 days 15 days

2701
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:26,880
and uh yeah yeah yeah that's going to be

2702
01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:29,040
amazing yeah two weeks in egypt with uh

2703
01:52:35,109 --> 01:52:33,199
billy carson um uh now oh oh oh oh oh i

2704
01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:35,119
i i want a circle let me look at the

2705
01:52:38,550 --> 01:52:36,320
clock okay

2706
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:38,560
i want to circle back to mary rodwell

2707
01:52:41,109 --> 01:52:40,000
for a second

2708
01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:41,119
um

2709
01:52:45,589 --> 01:52:44,560
mary's uh again what she brings to the

2710
01:52:48,870 --> 01:52:45,599
film

2711
01:52:51,910 --> 01:52:48,880
is is unbelievable but um

2712
01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:51,920
mary uh a lot like laurie in a very

2713
01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:53,040
strange way

2714
01:52:57,510 --> 01:52:54,480
um uh

2715
01:52:58,629 --> 01:52:57,520
mary is so well researched

2716
01:53:02,950 --> 01:52:58,639
and

2717
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:02,960
to

2718
01:53:08,870 --> 01:53:06,880
different not only

2719
01:53:10,629 --> 01:53:08,880
i i don't want to say abductees but

2720
01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:10,639
contactees

2721
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:13,760
of a wide range of age

2722
01:53:18,470 --> 01:53:16,320
you know from children which is tough

2723
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:18,480
for a lot of people to

2724
01:53:28,870 --> 01:53:19,280
to

2725
01:53:30,310 --> 01:53:28,880
and and mary's research is unbelievable

2726
01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:30,320
and and i think

2727
01:53:33,990 --> 01:53:32,320
uh her section of the film is something

2728
01:53:35,350 --> 01:53:34,000
that everybody really needs to pay

2729
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:35,360
attention to

2730
01:53:40,629 --> 01:53:38,880
um and uh uh i want your comment on that

2731
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:40,639
first jack

2732
01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:42,880
mary's intelligence and the way that she

2733
01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:45,440
approaches this it's different than any

2734
01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:47,679
other researcher

2735
01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:50,080
it is and again i keep saying this and i

2736
01:53:53,030 --> 01:53:51,920
sound like a broken record but so

2737
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:53,040
impressive

2738
01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:54,880
uh her her

2739
01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:56,560
the amount of knowledge she has in that

2740
01:54:01,750 --> 01:53:59,040
head and just the but again it's the way

2741
01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:01,760
she perceives things the way she

2742
01:54:06,470 --> 01:54:04,000
understands things and

2743
01:54:08,950 --> 01:54:06,480
i i have her book the new human and i

2744
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:08,960
have i'm about to read it and i'm very

2745
01:54:12,310 --> 01:54:10,480
excited to read it because some of the

2746
01:54:14,390 --> 01:54:12,320
things she's talking about and some of

2747
01:54:16,629 --> 01:54:14,400
the research she's done in her life and

2748
01:54:18,310 --> 01:54:16,639
continues to do is really cutting edge

2749
01:54:20,629 --> 01:54:18,320
because you're right children

2750
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:20,639
it's difficult with children but it's

2751
01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:22,560
also i feel critical

2752
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:24,400
especially in this field because i feel

2753
01:54:28,790 --> 01:54:26,400
like children are a key to all of this

2754
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:28,800
in one way shape or form whether they're

2755
01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:31,679
hybrid children whether they're uh

2756
01:54:37,030 --> 01:54:34,400
indigo children you know why are they

2757
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:37,040
the next step in our evolution is our

2758
01:54:42,229 --> 01:54:40,000
our is does autism tie into this i mean

2759
01:54:44,470 --> 01:54:42,239
she blew our minds

2760
01:54:46,070 --> 01:54:44,480
right john i mean like it's one of those

2761
01:54:47,589 --> 01:54:46,080
conversations that you have with her

2762
01:54:48,870 --> 01:54:47,599
that some of it is actually in the film

2763
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:48,880
but there's so much that's just a

2764
01:54:52,390 --> 01:54:50,400
conversation that

2765
01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:52,400
our jaws were on the ground

2766
01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:54,239
john

2767
01:54:58,950 --> 01:54:56,080
yeah in the same way that when we when

2768
01:55:00,149 --> 01:54:58,960
we first were introduced to um sierra

2769
01:55:02,470 --> 01:55:00,159
neblina

2770
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:02,480
10 years ago and we heard her story were

2771
01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:04,639
like gosh that that that story is

2772
01:55:07,750 --> 01:55:06,400
amazing we we need to do more research

2773
01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:07,760
on it and it was the unexplained

2774
01:55:13,510 --> 01:55:10,159
pregnancies that led us to

2775
01:55:14,870 --> 01:55:13,520
a film about specifically that topic uh

2776
01:55:16,390 --> 01:55:14,880
the interview with mary by the time we

2777
01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:16,400
were done we were talking about we need

2778
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:18,880
to do a completely dedicated documentary

2779
01:55:23,109 --> 01:55:21,040
film on the new on the new humans and

2780
01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:23,119
your research into that and one of the

2781
01:55:25,270 --> 01:55:24,480
things that i think

2782
01:55:28,390 --> 01:55:25,280
was

2783
01:55:30,550 --> 01:55:28,400
my one of my biggest takeaways from

2784
01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:30,560
the interviews that we did during this

2785
01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:33,360
this this project was

2786
01:55:41,030 --> 01:55:34,800
talking with

2787
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:41,040
with george servos who nobody knows

2788
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:43,440
and he's a biblical scholar

2789
01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:47,040
uh and talk to them is what level of

2790
01:55:52,390 --> 01:55:50,080
expertise they bring

2791
01:55:54,070 --> 01:55:52,400
is all based on their research and

2792
01:55:55,510 --> 01:55:54,080
nobody can question their research

2793
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,520
because it's done

2794
01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:57,040
beyond reproach

2795
01:56:01,910 --> 01:55:59,599
so when you have these these experts

2796
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:01,920
like this saying i've done the work i've

2797
01:56:06,229 --> 01:56:03,760
done the heavy lifting i've done the

2798
01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:06,239
deep dive into my subjects this is what

2799
01:56:10,070 --> 01:56:08,239
i'm founding you need to pay attention

2800
01:56:13,189 --> 01:56:10,080
to this

2801
01:56:14,950 --> 01:56:13,199
we do we do any research or disservice

2802
01:56:17,189 --> 01:56:14,960
if we don't listen to what they have to

2803
01:56:18,390 --> 01:56:17,199
say and if what they're pointing to is

2804
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:18,400
proof

2805
01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:19,760
we need to start listening to that and

2806
01:56:24,310 --> 01:56:22,159
dr jacob said when went off camera

2807
01:56:25,830 --> 01:56:24,320
talking to him because he got emotional

2808
01:56:27,430 --> 01:56:25,840
he says like i'm sick and tired of

2809
01:56:29,109 --> 01:56:27,440
people saying they need proof he says

2810
01:56:30,629 --> 01:56:29,119
i've been doing it but hopkins has been

2811
01:56:32,870 --> 01:56:30,639
doing it john mac have been doing it

2812
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:32,880
we've been doing all this research for

2813
01:56:37,830 --> 01:56:35,360
decades and there's an overwhelming

2814
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:37,840
amount of proof it's in the the stories

2815
01:56:41,350 --> 01:56:39,040
that people are telling that are

2816
01:56:44,149 --> 01:56:41,360
corroborative what more proof do you

2817
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:44,159
need than than than the the work that

2818
01:56:48,709 --> 01:56:47,199
has been done up till this point so mary

2819
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:48,719
has done that work

2820
01:56:54,390 --> 01:56:52,639
john mack you know there's a long long

2821
01:56:56,390 --> 01:56:54,400
list of people who've done done the

2822
01:56:57,830 --> 01:56:56,400
pioneers and the heavy lifting and there

2823
01:56:59,430 --> 01:56:57,840
will be more people who carry that torch

2824
01:57:00,950 --> 01:56:59,440
forward we just need to pay attention a

2825
01:57:03,270 --> 01:57:00,960
little bit more and trust that the

2826
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:03,280
people who've done the heavy lifting and

2827
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:05,440
the hard work and the deep dives are are

2828
01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:07,360
delivering information that we should

2829
01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:08,719
pay attention to

2830
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:11,440
as opposed to clouding our judgment

2831
01:57:16,229 --> 01:57:12,719
based on something that we may have

2832
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:16,239
learned uh off the cuff or through a a

2833
01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:19,840
one-hour research dive on youtube so i

2834
01:57:25,270 --> 01:57:22,719
think like jack said reading the book

2835
01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:25,280
read the book read the book get into it

2836
01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:26,880
understand a little more pose the

2837
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:28,400
questions meet with people talk with

2838
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:29,440
that's what we're trying to do with our

2839
01:57:34,390 --> 01:57:31,840
films scratch the surface reach as

2840
01:57:36,229 --> 01:57:34,400
enough people as we possibly can and get

2841
01:57:38,310 --> 01:57:36,239
them to

2842
01:57:40,629 --> 01:57:38,320
you know ponder something for the first

2843
01:57:43,830 --> 01:57:40,639
time gosh i i'd never heard of the

2844
01:57:45,510 --> 01:57:43,840
biblical paradigm before i i i maybe i

2845
01:57:47,189 --> 01:57:45,520
should pay attention to what timothy and

2846
01:57:49,109 --> 01:57:47,199
la are saying let me let me go and do a

2847
01:57:50,870 --> 01:57:49,119
little bit of research or jeez what's

2848
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:50,880
this colonization stuff should i be

2849
01:57:54,629 --> 01:57:52,400
concerned about i got to find out more

2850
01:57:56,870 --> 01:57:54,639
about dr jacobs or with any of the

2851
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:56,880
people you know vivian chauvet is a

2852
01:58:01,589 --> 01:57:59,679
arcturian hybrid what does that mean go

2853
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:01,599
go do the research learn you're going to

2854
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:04,239
be much better for it as a result of

2855
01:58:07,669 --> 01:58:06,080
taking that dive now there's uh

2856
01:58:09,910 --> 01:58:07,679
something uh

2857
01:58:11,830 --> 01:58:09,920
i've got uh i want your reactions both

2858
01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:11,840
of you before the break we've got uh two

2859
01:58:15,189 --> 01:58:13,119
minutes

2860
01:58:16,950 --> 01:58:15,199
is that the film

2861
01:58:19,189 --> 01:58:16,960
i'm gonna say we because i've been a

2862
01:58:20,629 --> 01:58:19,199
part of it uh so i'll just say we

2863
01:58:22,709 --> 01:58:20,639
because i can

2864
01:58:24,709 --> 01:58:22,719
but we've been working on this film now

2865
01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:24,719
for almost two years

2866
01:58:26,709 --> 01:58:25,840
and

2867
01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:26,719
the

2868
01:58:30,149 --> 01:58:28,480
timing of it

2869
01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:30,159
is awesome

2870
01:58:34,390 --> 01:58:32,800
but the part of the

2871
01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:34,400
it's timeless

2872
01:58:39,030 --> 01:58:36,320
so the subject matter

2873
01:58:40,790 --> 01:58:39,040
this film could be released anytime it's

2874
01:58:41,990 --> 01:58:40,800
great that it's coming out when it is

2875
01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:42,000
right now

2876
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:45,760
but it doesn't have a dated aspect to it

2877
01:58:50,870 --> 01:58:48,960
it's a timeless film and anybody can

2878
01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:50,880
watch this at any point and get

2879
01:58:56,950 --> 01:58:52,960
something from it because it's not time

2880
01:58:58,950 --> 01:58:56,960
stamped jack your response to that

2881
01:59:00,950 --> 01:58:58,960
yeah i totally agree with you and you

2882
01:59:02,709 --> 01:59:00,960
know you know the filmmaking process is

2883
01:59:05,270 --> 01:59:02,719
the filmmaking process i mean some of

2884
01:59:07,109 --> 01:59:05,280
that we have no control over uh you know

2885
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:07,119
we have a budget we have we have

2886
01:59:11,350 --> 01:59:09,360
investors you know we have to

2887
01:59:13,109 --> 01:59:11,360
have the money to finish the film so

2888
01:59:14,709 --> 01:59:13,119
that was gonna happen the way it was

2889
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:14,719
gonna happen and then of course the

2890
01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:16,800
distributor has a say in well what's the

2891
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:18,880
best time now that the film's almost

2892
01:59:22,229 --> 01:59:20,639
done what's the best time for it to come

2893
01:59:23,990 --> 01:59:22,239
out right so that's all stuff that we

2894
01:59:26,790 --> 01:59:24,000
really don't have too much control over

2895
01:59:28,390 --> 01:59:26,800
but the actual yes you are correct and i

2896
01:59:30,950 --> 01:59:28,400
feel like there's a reason why we wanted

2897
01:59:32,950 --> 01:59:30,960
to make these films now why why

2898
01:59:34,870 --> 01:59:32,960
10 years ago were like so fascinated

2899
01:59:36,709 --> 01:59:34,880
with starting this process there's

2900
01:59:39,030 --> 01:59:36,719
something happening i think in all of us

2901
01:59:40,709 --> 01:59:39,040
that we're realizing that now is a very

2902
01:59:42,149 --> 01:59:40,719
critical time

2903
01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:42,159
we can't say i don't know what's going

2904
01:59:45,109 --> 01:59:43,599
to happen tomorrow i don't know what's

2905
01:59:48,310 --> 01:59:45,119
going to happen what's going to happen

2906
01:59:50,310 --> 01:59:48,320
next week but yes the films are they

2907
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:50,320
they're timeless but i also think that

2908
01:59:55,669 --> 01:59:52,800
right now they're very important

2909
01:59:57,669 --> 01:59:55,679
it's crazy how the two work together

2910
01:59:58,709 --> 01:59:57,679
and then which is my point it's actually

2911
02:00:01,750 --> 01:59:58,719
happening

2912
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:01,760
um and john how fortunate

2913
02:00:08,390 --> 02:00:04,960
is it that the film is coming out now

2914
02:00:10,629 --> 02:00:08,400
not six months ago right now is the

2915
02:00:12,790 --> 02:00:10,639
important time for this thing to to hit

2916
02:00:15,270 --> 02:00:12,800
the streets and get watched and it has

2917
02:00:17,430 --> 02:00:15,280
this timeless aspect to it

2918
02:00:19,189 --> 02:00:17,440
yeah i think what were we i think a

2919
02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:19,199
little bit lucky you know they're like

2920
02:00:23,189 --> 02:00:21,360
jack said there's funding you know

2921
02:00:25,189 --> 02:00:23,199
people it does cost money to make films

2922
02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:25,199
like this and it doesn't you know grow

2923
02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:26,960
on trees i wish it did we'd do more of

2924
02:00:29,589 --> 02:00:27,760
them

2925
02:00:31,750 --> 02:00:29,599
but you know the funding part of it is

2926
02:00:33,430 --> 02:00:31,760
is critically important kovit definitely

2927
02:00:35,910 --> 02:00:33,440
had a play in it there were people that

2928
02:00:37,510 --> 02:00:35,920
were lost jobs and when the opportunity

2929
02:00:39,990 --> 02:00:37,520
to make money appear you know that

2930
02:00:42,070 --> 02:00:40,000
became a priority and therefore we need

2931
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:42,080
to table certain things so

2932
02:00:45,830 --> 02:00:44,080
all of these things kind of led to from

2933
02:00:48,550 --> 02:00:45,840
a timing perspective that this is

2934
02:00:50,629 --> 02:00:48,560
coinciding with a lot of messages that

2935
02:00:53,030 --> 02:00:50,639
are very very uh i don't want to say

2936
02:00:56,390 --> 02:00:53,040
similar but uh critically important in

2937
02:00:57,910 --> 02:00:56,400
parallel with this and and and it it's

2938
02:01:00,070 --> 02:00:57,920
creating more of an awareness in the

2939
02:01:01,589 --> 02:01:00,080
consciousness that when people are

2940
02:01:03,750 --> 02:01:01,599
hearing about these things we're hoping

2941
02:01:05,510 --> 02:01:03,760
that our story is associated with it not

2942
02:01:08,709 --> 02:01:05,520
for fame and glory or anything like that

2943
02:01:10,870 --> 02:01:08,719
but again for that education for raising

2944
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:10,880
awareness on something that people who

2945
02:01:15,510 --> 02:01:12,639
are more in the center of the bell curve

2946
02:01:17,669 --> 02:01:15,520
may not have given much thought to if we

2947
02:01:20,070 --> 02:01:17,679
do this right we get people

2948
02:01:21,830 --> 02:01:20,080
across the spectrums talking about it

2949
02:01:24,390 --> 02:01:21,840
engaging in

2950
02:01:25,750 --> 02:01:24,400
if if we had our best wish would be is

2951
02:01:27,669 --> 02:01:25,760
that people are having water cooler

2952
02:01:29,830 --> 02:01:27,679
conversations about the content not

2953
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:29,840
necessarily the film but the content

2954
02:01:35,990 --> 02:01:34,000
and jack he says fame and glory uh but

2955
02:01:39,270 --> 02:01:36,000
that that's all well and good but i can

2956
02:01:42,149 --> 02:01:39,280
see behind john he's got his suit for

2957
02:01:43,990 --> 02:01:42,159
the pasadena film festival hanging up in

2958
02:01:45,750 --> 02:01:44,000
the background i know this attack yeah

2959
02:01:48,870 --> 02:01:45,760
you saw it

2960
02:01:50,470 --> 02:01:48,880
let's take our break right here

2961
02:01:52,470 --> 02:01:50,480
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2962
02:01:54,950 --> 02:01:52,480
jimmy chairman he's actually my wife

2963
02:01:56,950 --> 02:01:54,960
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2964
02:01:58,310 --> 02:01:56,960
on his wife

2965
02:02:00,229 --> 02:01:58,320
jack raw

2966
02:02:02,470 --> 02:02:00,239
john supple their new film we're gonna

2967
02:02:04,790 --> 02:02:02,480
pick up or we're leaving off but we've

2968
02:02:06,580 --> 02:02:04,800
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2969
02:02:09,189 --> 02:02:06,590
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you want to know a secret

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i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

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serious

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i couldn't stay sane without pulling mr

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why fade to black

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra the global radio alliance

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[Music]

3062
02:06:53,189 --> 02:06:51,040
welcome back paid to black i am your

3063
02:06:55,669 --> 02:06:53,199
host jimmy church

3064
02:06:58,790 --> 02:06:55,679
tonight john simple jack roth their new

3065
02:07:00,950 --> 02:06:58,800
film extraordinary the revelations

3066
02:07:03,189 --> 02:07:00,960
now it's gonna premiere at the uh

3067
02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:03,199
pasadena film festival i want everybody

3068
02:07:07,669 --> 02:07:05,199
i'll get all the links up in social

3069
02:07:10,310 --> 02:07:07,679
media uh for you to go

3070
02:07:13,350 --> 02:07:10,320
and check out uh the the location in

3071
02:07:17,030 --> 02:07:13,360
time but it will be saturday september

3072
02:07:20,069 --> 02:07:17,040
11th uh the premiere in pasadena at the

3073
02:07:22,390 --> 02:07:20,079
film festival we have the trailer up on

3074
02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:22,400
our youtube channel and i've also got

3075
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:24,000
the movie poster

3076
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:26,800
and uh i've uh put that up too as well

3077
02:07:30,069 --> 02:07:28,480
and i'll get that on social media it's

3078
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:30,079
all very cool now

3079
02:07:34,310 --> 02:07:30,960
um

3080
02:07:35,350 --> 02:07:34,320
i'm gonna change gears just a little bit

3081
02:07:37,750 --> 02:07:35,360
here

3082
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:37,760
in that um

3083
02:07:42,950 --> 02:07:39,520
i do

3084
02:07:44,870 --> 02:07:42,960
an intro it's not about me but

3085
02:07:46,870 --> 02:07:44,880
there's there's a reason for me to say

3086
02:07:49,589 --> 02:07:46,880
this i do an intro at the beginning of

3087
02:07:51,430 --> 02:07:49,599
the film setting the stage but i also do

3088
02:07:54,470 --> 02:07:51,440
an outro

3089
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:54,480
and i thought that that outro

3090
02:07:58,229 --> 02:07:55,520
uh

3091
02:07:59,830 --> 02:07:58,239
was probably more important than the

3092
02:08:02,390 --> 02:07:59,840
intro to the film

3093
02:08:03,510 --> 02:08:02,400
and and john you put a lot of stress on

3094
02:08:04,470 --> 02:08:03,520
me

3095
02:08:09,030 --> 02:08:04,480
when we

3096
02:08:10,229 --> 02:08:09,040
that outro was and and for you

3097
02:08:13,350 --> 02:08:10,239
personally

3098
02:08:16,709 --> 02:08:13,360
um the emphasis on that and not only the

3099
02:08:19,030 --> 02:08:16,719
words and the content but how to the

3100
02:08:22,229 --> 02:08:19,040
very last words

3101
02:08:23,910 --> 02:08:22,239
uh that i narrate in in in the film are

3102
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:23,920
probably more important than the

3103
02:08:28,629 --> 02:08:26,320
beginning but this is this is my point

3104
02:08:30,470 --> 02:08:28,639
is saying all of this

3105
02:08:34,550 --> 02:08:30,480
we did all of that

3106
02:08:38,229 --> 02:08:34,560
before the uap task force report

3107
02:08:40,310 --> 02:08:38,239
right and and and i find all of that

3108
02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:40,320
very interesting because

3109
02:08:46,229 --> 02:08:44,079
we didn't even know about the uaptf

3110
02:08:48,709 --> 02:08:46,239
we didn't know about the report we

3111
02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:48,719
didn't know what was about to

3112
02:08:53,990 --> 02:08:51,760
explode over the next uh eight

3113
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:54,000
uh six or eight months uh

3114
02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:57,119
going up to last month right june 25th

3115
02:09:00,470 --> 02:08:57,920
um

3116
02:09:02,709 --> 02:09:00,480
when when you saw the report when it

3117
02:09:05,830 --> 02:09:02,719
came out knowing that you just completed

3118
02:09:08,470 --> 02:09:05,840
this film what went through your mind as

3119
02:09:10,790 --> 02:09:08,480
you read the report

3120
02:09:13,910 --> 02:09:10,800
well i i think that the the biggest

3121
02:09:15,430 --> 02:09:13,920
thing uh for me is that

3122
02:09:16,950 --> 02:09:15,440
you know jack mentioned earlier you kind

3123
02:09:17,750 --> 02:09:16,960
of feel like you're you're guided

3124
02:09:18,950 --> 02:09:17,760
through

3125
02:09:21,189 --> 02:09:18,960
we've kind of felt that we've been

3126
02:09:23,750 --> 02:09:21,199
guided through this process to it to a

3127
02:09:25,189 --> 02:09:23,760
certain extent and this is not a woo-woo

3128
02:09:26,870 --> 02:09:25,199
thing it's just kind of sometimes you're

3129
02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:26,880
in the right place at the right time

3130
02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:28,639
with the right story and the right

3131
02:09:33,189 --> 02:09:30,639
connections and i feel like that's a big

3132
02:09:35,430 --> 02:09:33,199
part of what we're doing so from a from

3133
02:09:38,550 --> 02:09:35,440
a a timing perspective for the

3134
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:38,560
information that is coming out i think

3135
02:09:42,149 --> 02:09:40,320
let me even rewind a little bit back to

3136
02:09:44,709 --> 02:09:42,159
when we were doing the interview uh with

3137
02:09:46,870 --> 02:09:44,719
nick pope nick kind of set the table for

3138
02:09:49,430 --> 02:09:46,880
us during the interview with him and i

3139
02:09:51,669 --> 02:09:49,440
would say of all the people that are in

3140
02:09:53,830 --> 02:09:51,679
this film nick has probably the most

3141
02:09:56,390 --> 02:09:53,840
profound information that is shared in

3142
02:09:59,189 --> 02:09:56,400
this film and he kind of led us

3143
02:10:00,629 --> 02:09:59,199
down the path of something is coming

3144
02:10:02,149 --> 02:10:00,639
you know you guys

3145
02:10:03,990 --> 02:10:02,159
in even when we interviewed him he said

3146
02:10:05,990 --> 02:10:04,000
at the time he goes this is the perfect

3147
02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:06,000
time for this film

3148
02:10:10,310 --> 02:10:08,159
so we kind of knew maybe based on what

3149
02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:10,320
he knows and he didn't you know come out

3150
02:10:13,350 --> 02:10:11,920
and say here's what you need to know

3151
02:10:15,350 --> 02:10:13,360
here's what i'm hearing from the

3152
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:15,360
insiders but he did share it in a ways

3153
02:10:19,510 --> 02:10:17,920
that we're moving towards something and

3154
02:10:21,510 --> 02:10:19,520
the timing of this film couldn't be

3155
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:21,520
better so they're they're in the back of

3156
02:10:26,229 --> 02:10:23,520
our minds i think we felt like

3157
02:10:27,830 --> 02:10:26,239
we're aligned with something here uh in

3158
02:10:29,669 --> 02:10:27,840
some ways we kind of stumbled on it in

3159
02:10:31,350 --> 02:10:29,679
other ways it's been leading to this

3160
02:10:34,149 --> 02:10:31,360
point for a decade

3161
02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:34,159
uh so when when that came out it wasn't

3162
02:10:39,750 --> 02:10:37,040
it was it wasn't as much of a goose bump

3163
02:10:41,589 --> 02:10:39,760
moment as much as it was a validation

3164
02:10:43,030 --> 02:10:41,599
type of things like we're we're doing

3165
02:10:45,030 --> 02:10:43,040
something that serves a purpose and it

3166
02:10:46,709 --> 02:10:45,040
feels like we're at the right place at

3167
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:46,719
the right time jack i don't know if you

3168
02:10:51,350 --> 02:10:48,560
felt any differently but that was kind

3169
02:10:53,669 --> 02:10:51,360
of my take jack

3170
02:10:56,709 --> 02:10:53,679
yeah totally agree with that and

3171
02:10:59,350 --> 02:10:56,719
right place right time but also um

3172
02:11:01,589 --> 02:10:59,360
interesting right um to to think about

3173
02:11:03,589 --> 02:11:01,599
all the people we've spoken to

3174
02:11:05,669 --> 02:11:03,599
think about we where we go with these

3175
02:11:08,310 --> 02:11:05,679
films and then think about what that

3176
02:11:10,629 --> 02:11:08,320
report is saying and it i feel like

3177
02:11:12,790 --> 02:11:10,639
there's still a long way to go right we

3178
02:11:14,790 --> 02:11:12,800
talk about disclosure

3179
02:11:16,790 --> 02:11:14,800
well i think the key there is

3180
02:11:18,149 --> 02:11:16,800
is it going to be full disclosure right

3181
02:11:20,069 --> 02:11:18,159
we could talk about

3182
02:11:21,830 --> 02:11:20,079
the military saying

3183
02:11:23,270 --> 02:11:21,840
well yeah

3184
02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:23,280
they're there

3185
02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:25,760
right like these reports are we we

3186
02:11:30,870 --> 02:11:27,280
follow these things we track them

3187
02:11:32,870 --> 02:11:30,880
they're not from we didn't it's not us

3188
02:11:35,750 --> 02:11:32,880
the technology is way beyond us so

3189
02:11:38,310 --> 02:11:35,760
they're kind of admitting that

3190
02:11:40,390 --> 02:11:38,320
these phenomena are real that's what

3191
02:11:43,430 --> 02:11:40,400
that's all they're saying

3192
02:11:44,229 --> 02:11:43,440
we are already way down the road on that

3193
02:11:45,750 --> 02:11:44,239
with

3194
02:11:46,470 --> 02:11:45,760
you know

3195
02:11:47,589 --> 02:11:46,480
how

3196
02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:47,599
you know

3197
02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:48,880
abductions

3198
02:11:53,030 --> 02:11:51,440
hybridization programs

3199
02:11:54,550 --> 02:11:53,040
i don't think that the government of the

3200
02:11:56,470 --> 02:11:54,560
military is going to come out tomorrow

3201
02:11:58,709 --> 02:11:56,480
and say oh and by the way

3202
02:12:00,870 --> 02:11:58,719
we we knew about this they've been doing

3203
02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:00,880
this they're not only here but you know

3204
02:12:04,390 --> 02:12:03,040
there's hybrid children and all this i

3205
02:12:05,750 --> 02:12:04,400
think they're i think they're always

3206
02:12:07,270 --> 02:12:05,760
going to control the message i think

3207
02:12:08,709 --> 02:12:07,280
it's important what's happening right

3208
02:12:10,870 --> 02:12:08,719
now but i think it's going to be a

3209
02:12:12,550 --> 02:12:10,880
process because i don't if they're going

3210
02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:12,560
to control the message they can't come

3211
02:12:17,589 --> 02:12:15,280
out and say oh by the way

3212
02:12:19,830 --> 02:12:17,599
we knew about hybridization experiments

3213
02:12:21,830 --> 02:12:19,840
and thousands and tens of thousands and

3214
02:12:23,430 --> 02:12:21,840
hundreds of thousands of people citizens

3215
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:23,440
across this world

3216
02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:26,000
being abducted so there's levels and

3217
02:12:29,430 --> 02:12:27,679
layers to that

3218
02:12:32,709 --> 02:12:29,440
but i do think it's important that at

3219
02:12:35,589 --> 02:12:32,719
least they're acknowledging and finally

3220
02:12:37,109 --> 02:12:35,599
not calling everything swamp gas

3221
02:12:39,430 --> 02:12:37,119
yeah there's uh

3222
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:39,440
i think that's a big part of it but you

3223
02:12:44,709 --> 02:12:42,400
there's uh a point that both of you uh

3224
02:12:46,870 --> 02:12:44,719
just made that i find very interesting

3225
02:12:48,870 --> 02:12:46,880
and and i agree with

3226
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:48,880
it's not so much what they said

3227
02:12:56,149 --> 02:12:51,440
it's what they didn't say

3228
02:12:58,709 --> 02:12:56,159
right they left right that it was very

3229
02:13:02,870 --> 02:12:58,719
cleverly written

3230
02:13:04,149 --> 02:13:02,880
so if you are going to say um uh it's

3231
02:13:07,750 --> 02:13:04,159
not us

3232
02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:07,760
it's not russia it's not china

3233
02:13:12,470 --> 02:13:11,040
uh okay that's right wait wait a minute

3234
02:13:16,229 --> 02:13:12,480
what's left

3235
02:13:18,870 --> 02:13:16,239
you know and so they cleverly inserted

3236
02:13:20,149 --> 02:13:18,880
the other bin

3237
02:13:23,189 --> 02:13:20,159
right

3238
02:13:27,830 --> 02:13:23,199
i mean how how crazy was that john what

3239
02:13:32,709 --> 02:13:30,709
the uh i'm sorry i was reading

3240
02:13:34,709 --> 02:13:32,719
some comments here and texting i'm

3241
02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:34,719
trying to do it's kind of not smart to

3242
02:13:39,030 --> 02:13:36,880
do both at the same time but what was

3243
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:39,040
the context of the question again

3244
02:13:43,910 --> 02:13:41,280
in the uap task force report it's what

3245
02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:43,920
they didn't write and when they say that

3246
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:46,159
it's not us and it's not russia and it's

3247
02:13:50,149 --> 02:13:47,520
not china

3248
02:13:52,709 --> 02:13:50,159
and what's left right

3249
02:13:57,510 --> 02:13:52,719
there's a third category here and then

3250
02:13:59,350 --> 02:13:57,520
they conveniently created the other bin

3251
02:14:00,950 --> 02:13:59,360
right and and and that's that's

3252
02:14:01,830 --> 02:14:00,960
intentional

3253
02:14:03,990 --> 02:14:01,840
you know

3254
02:14:06,069 --> 02:14:04,000
one of the things that uh that nick pope

3255
02:14:08,310 --> 02:14:06,079
talks about in the film is

3256
02:14:10,870 --> 02:14:08,320
the the the it's you have to listen to

3257
02:14:12,470 --> 02:14:10,880
what they don't say as much as you do to

3258
02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:12,480
what they do say

3259
02:14:16,629 --> 02:14:14,560
and uh you know he he says i bring a

3260
02:14:18,229 --> 02:14:16,639
little bit of discernment to that

3261
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:18,239
because of my

3262
02:14:21,990 --> 02:14:19,760
being on the other side of the fence i

3263
02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:22,000
know when they're using language in a

3264
02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:23,360
big part of what nick talks about in the

3265
02:14:27,669 --> 02:14:25,360
film is that words matter and you need

3266
02:14:29,830 --> 02:14:27,679
to listen to what is being said as much

3267
02:14:32,069 --> 02:14:29,840
as you listen to what isn't being said

3268
02:14:34,870 --> 02:14:32,079
in in drawing some conclusions and he

3269
02:14:37,430 --> 02:14:34,880
draws some pretty big conclusions

3270
02:14:40,229 --> 02:14:37,440
in the end of the film as a result of

3271
02:14:41,589 --> 02:14:40,239
what isn't being said so critically

3272
02:14:43,750 --> 02:14:41,599
important to pay attention to those

3273
02:14:47,030 --> 02:14:43,760
things and i i think that that nick kind

3274
02:14:48,950 --> 02:14:47,040
of opened my eyes to that possibility of

3275
02:14:50,229 --> 02:14:48,960
paying attention to it from that

3276
02:14:51,750 --> 02:14:50,239
perspective which i really didn't pay

3277
02:14:53,589 --> 02:14:51,760
much attention to before but now i'm

3278
02:14:55,189 --> 02:14:53,599
kind of like oh yeah

3279
02:14:57,510 --> 02:14:55,199
we should we we need to listen to what

3280
02:15:00,790 --> 02:14:57,520
isn't being said just as closely

3281
02:15:02,390 --> 02:15:00,800
now before we run out of time jack i try

3282
02:15:04,629 --> 02:15:02,400
to i'm going to i'm going to do this

3283
02:15:06,310 --> 02:15:04,639
with john too so john don't think you're

3284
02:15:10,550 --> 02:15:06,320
getting off easy

3285
02:15:11,910 --> 02:15:10,560
um but jack uh i i was in the beginning

3286
02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:11,920
of the show

3287
02:15:17,109 --> 02:15:14,800
i was trying to get out of you if you

3288
02:15:19,589 --> 02:15:17,119
have had your own

3289
02:15:22,310 --> 02:15:19,599
contact experience if you've seen

3290
02:15:25,109 --> 02:15:22,320
something in the sky or something beyond

3291
02:15:26,709 --> 02:15:25,119
that something that drew you into this

3292
02:15:28,229 --> 02:15:26,719
uh community

3293
02:15:31,430 --> 02:15:28,239
have you seen something in the sky have

3294
02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:34,950
uh well yeah i'll go back to before

3295
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:36,880
when we first got into the doing these

3296
02:15:40,229 --> 02:15:38,639
documentaries i guess it was about 10

3297
02:15:42,790 --> 02:15:40,239
years ago with stan

3298
02:15:46,229 --> 02:15:42,800
and all that if and his story i had

3299
02:15:48,709 --> 02:15:46,239
never had what i would call a definitive

3300
02:15:51,669 --> 02:15:48,719
ufo encounter or sighting

3301
02:15:54,790 --> 02:15:51,679
what's interesting is that since then

3302
02:15:57,189 --> 02:15:54,800
i've had some experiences i did see a

3303
02:15:59,910 --> 02:15:57,199
uh oddly enough uh it was incredible

3304
02:16:01,589 --> 02:15:59,920
experience uh i was actually with

3305
02:16:03,830 --> 02:16:01,599
that is controversial but i was with

3306
02:16:05,750 --> 02:16:03,840
stan rominik and his wife and we were at

3307
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,760
a conference in sebring florida and if

3308
02:16:08,950 --> 02:16:07,760
anyone knows florida and sebring

3309
02:16:10,629 --> 02:16:08,960
seabring's right in the middle of the

3310
02:16:13,270 --> 02:16:10,639
state there's nothing there but a

3311
02:16:15,589 --> 02:16:13,280
racetrack and a resort that's it

3312
02:16:17,510 --> 02:16:15,599
and uh i was there with a couple people

3313
02:16:19,270 --> 02:16:17,520
we were outside and we were just hanging

3314
02:16:22,950 --> 02:16:19,280
out and i

3315
02:16:25,270 --> 02:16:22,960
kid you not this triangular shaped craft

3316
02:16:27,430 --> 02:16:25,280
flew right over our heads

3317
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:27,440
now whether that was a coincidence that

3318
02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:30,079
stan was there or not i do not know and

3319
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:33,040
i dare not say but uh that was my first

3320
02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:34,319
sighting

3321
02:16:37,990 --> 02:16:35,760
and then the other thing i would say is

3322
02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:38,000
that we had weird experiences during

3323
02:16:42,389 --> 02:16:39,599
that time as well with some interesting

3324
02:16:44,629 --> 02:16:42,399
phone calls that we were getting in very

3325
02:16:47,030 --> 02:16:44,639
unlikely ways that made us think that it

3326
02:16:48,790 --> 02:16:47,040
was very very the technology was

3327
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:48,800
something that we had never experienced

3328
02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:50,960
before so

3329
02:16:55,110 --> 02:16:52,880
high strangeness

3330
02:16:57,750 --> 02:16:55,120
a ufo sighting yes

3331
02:16:59,110 --> 02:16:57,760
uh since then i think my intuition now

3332
02:17:01,030 --> 02:16:59,120
has gone through the roof from where it

3333
02:17:02,389 --> 02:17:01,040
was 10 years ago right i think i'm a

3334
02:17:04,870 --> 02:17:02,399
more enlightened person and more

3335
02:17:06,870 --> 02:17:04,880
sensitive to that stuff right uh so

3336
02:17:08,870 --> 02:17:06,880
that's what i would say i you know not i

3337
02:17:10,709 --> 02:17:08,880
i don't think i've ever been abducted i

3338
02:17:13,349 --> 02:17:10,719
don't have any memories that i can

3339
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:13,359
remember i just don't i don't see that

3340
02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:16,000
and as as having happened to me

3341
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:18,399
uh but other stuff since we've been

3342
02:17:24,309 --> 02:17:20,800
involved in this yeah

3343
02:17:25,429 --> 02:17:24,319
and uh before i uh pass this over to

3344
02:17:28,070 --> 02:17:25,439
john

3345
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:28,080
when you say triangle was this at night

3346
02:17:32,469 --> 02:17:30,160
or during the day

3347
02:17:34,870 --> 02:17:32,479
it was night time it was nighttime

3348
02:17:36,309 --> 02:17:34,880
so when you started time so when you say

3349
02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:36,319
triangle

3350
02:17:42,389 --> 02:17:39,280
did you see

3351
02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:42,399
there were it was three lights

3352
02:17:48,230 --> 02:17:43,679
on each

3353
02:17:50,389 --> 02:17:48,240
end of the craft and you could kind of

3354
02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:50,399
see the outline of it the moon was out

3355
02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:53,599
and oh man um it was a fear yeah and

3356
02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:55,760
what was really strange it was the word

3357
02:17:59,509 --> 02:17:58,000
that i always tell people was stealth

3358
02:18:01,270 --> 02:17:59,519
you couldn't hear it we were lucky to

3359
02:18:03,349 --> 02:18:01,280
see it it was actually it wasn't like oh

3360
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:03,359
my god look at that what's that he said

3361
02:18:07,990 --> 02:18:06,000
it wasn't john said it wasn't far away

3362
02:18:10,549 --> 02:18:08,000
wasn't no it was about i would say about

3363
02:18:13,030 --> 02:18:10,559
10 000 feet up

3364
02:18:16,549 --> 02:18:13,040
and if you could see a triangle at that

3365
02:18:18,469 --> 02:18:16,559
distance it must have been pretty big

3366
02:18:20,230 --> 02:18:18,479
it seemed like it was big and and but

3367
02:18:22,469 --> 02:18:20,240
again i think the thing that stuck out

3368
02:18:24,709 --> 02:18:22,479
to me the most was how stealthy it was

3369
02:18:27,030 --> 02:18:24,719
it was it was made not to be seen or

3370
02:18:28,790 --> 02:18:27,040
heard uh obviously they had the lights

3371
02:18:30,469 --> 02:18:28,800
but if i didn't look up

3372
02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:30,479
right if we didn't if my friend hadn't

3373
02:18:33,669 --> 02:18:31,760
looked up at that second it would have

3374
02:18:34,309 --> 02:18:33,679
passed right over we wouldn't have seen

3375
02:18:48,469 --> 02:18:34,319
it

3376
02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:48,479
seen john's he'll tell you his stories

3377
02:18:51,669 --> 02:18:50,319
i'd never seen anything before as

3378
02:18:53,750 --> 02:18:51,679
interested as that i am in this i

3379
02:18:55,349 --> 02:18:53,760
couldn't say i saw anything definitive

3380
02:18:57,589 --> 02:18:55,359
this was definitive

3381
02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:57,599
and i i tell people i either saw one of

3382
02:19:00,309 --> 02:18:59,519
two things i saw a

3383
02:19:01,830 --> 02:19:00,319
uh

3384
02:19:04,070 --> 02:19:01,840
et craft

3385
02:19:06,549 --> 02:19:04,080
or i saw a military aircraft that we're

3386
02:19:08,389 --> 02:19:06,559
not supposed to know exists

3387
02:19:10,230 --> 02:19:08,399
could that be back engineered from alien

3388
02:19:11,589 --> 02:19:10,240
technology so either way i felt pretty

3389
02:19:13,429 --> 02:19:11,599
excited

3390
02:19:15,910 --> 02:19:13,439
and that that's that's a class a

3391
02:19:19,830 --> 02:19:15,920
sighting right there i've uh

3392
02:19:22,790 --> 02:19:19,840
i've only seen one uh triangle and i

3393
02:19:24,709 --> 02:19:22,800
didn't know it was a triangle until i

3394
02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:24,719
looked at the picture that i took it was

3395
02:19:29,030 --> 02:19:26,399
a black dot

3396
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:29,040
right that i saw and then you know i got

3397
02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:30,880
the picture and i put a jeweler's loop

3398
02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:33,439
on it and i was like oh holy crap

3399
02:19:38,790 --> 02:19:36,479
wow it's a black triangle i mean like

3400
02:19:40,469 --> 02:19:38,800
a black triangle it's an incredible

3401
02:19:42,790 --> 02:19:40,479
picture and i'll i'll share it with you

3402
02:19:44,309 --> 02:19:42,800
guys on film you know i took it on a

3403
02:19:47,030 --> 02:19:44,319
film camera so

3404
02:19:49,750 --> 02:19:47,040
uh i have the negative and

3405
02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:49,760
and uh this picture which still to this

3406
02:19:54,550 --> 02:19:52,240
day it's it's it's incredible but i

3407
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:54,560
would have been much more excited if i

3408
02:19:58,230 --> 02:19:56,560
would have known it was a black triangle

3409
02:19:59,910 --> 02:19:58,240
right it was just a black dot that

3410
02:20:01,349 --> 02:19:59,920
stopped and moved across the sky and

3411
02:20:03,590 --> 02:20:01,359
then shot up

3412
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:03,600
uh and went into uh

3413
02:20:07,030 --> 02:20:05,920
the atmosphere just just gone up into

3414
02:20:09,110 --> 02:20:07,040
the blue

3415
02:20:11,110 --> 02:20:09,120
and a couple of months later i developed

3416
02:20:13,590 --> 02:20:11,120
the film and there it was a black

3417
02:20:15,590 --> 02:20:13,600
triangle that's amazing yeah yeah not as

3418
02:20:16,550 --> 02:20:15,600
cool as yours but it was pretty cool

3419
02:20:17,349 --> 02:20:16,560
john

3420
02:20:18,469 --> 02:20:17,359
uh

3421
02:20:20,550 --> 02:20:18,479
yes

3422
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:20,560
give me your sighting

3423
02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:28,469
well i i mean i was fortunate i guess

3424
02:20:34,630 --> 02:20:31,280
when i was young i was

3425
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:34,640
around i guess 10 11 12 years old i had

3426
02:20:37,830 --> 02:20:36,000
three sightings

3427
02:20:40,389 --> 02:20:37,840
within a couple years span two of them

3428
02:20:41,510 --> 02:20:40,399
were very similar lights moving across

3429
02:20:44,309 --> 02:20:41,520
the

3430
02:20:46,870 --> 02:20:44,319
sky at a very rapid pace and step

3431
02:20:48,469 --> 02:20:46,880
stopping on a dime across the horizon at

3432
02:20:50,550 --> 02:20:48,479
speeds that would be almost impossible

3433
02:20:51,349 --> 02:20:50,560
and these were at dusk so they it wasn't

3434
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:51,359
um

3435
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:53,680
you know dark and it was off in the

3436
02:20:56,389 --> 02:20:54,960
distance but

3437
02:20:58,790 --> 02:20:56,399
i wasn't the only one that witnessed it

3438
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:58,800
my father saw it called us out saw it

3439
02:21:02,870 --> 02:21:01,120
other people saw a lot of reports but

3440
02:21:05,030 --> 02:21:02,880
one i saw sitting on my front porch with

3441
02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:05,040
a friend of mine we saw a craft go down

3442
02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:06,479
into the woods that were

3443
02:21:09,990 --> 02:21:08,800
in front of the house where i lived in

3444
02:21:11,110 --> 02:21:10,000
connecticut

3445
02:21:13,349 --> 02:21:11,120
and

3446
02:21:15,830 --> 02:21:13,359
it was you know the classic kind of uh

3447
02:21:17,429 --> 02:21:15,840
saucer shaped disc shaped object that

3448
02:21:19,510 --> 02:21:17,439
had uh

3449
02:21:21,590 --> 02:21:19,520
alternating lights and it just went

3450
02:21:23,990 --> 02:21:21,600
straight down it was it was like a

3451
02:21:25,670 --> 02:21:24,000
helicopter landing but had no sound so

3452
02:21:27,590 --> 02:21:25,680
that was the one that to me that when i

3453
02:21:30,070 --> 02:21:27,600
looked at my friend we were kind of like

3454
02:21:32,070 --> 02:21:30,080
did you just see that too

3455
02:21:33,510 --> 02:21:32,080
and he says yeah i saw and we had some

3456
02:21:35,750 --> 02:21:33,520
friends that were down the street and we

3457
02:21:37,510 --> 02:21:35,760
both got up and ran down the street to

3458
02:21:38,870 --> 02:21:37,520
see if they had seen it as well and

3459
02:21:41,110 --> 02:21:38,880
nobody else saw it and we're like you

3460
02:21:42,870 --> 02:21:41,120
guys didn't see that it was it was just

3461
02:21:44,070 --> 02:21:42,880
right over i mean where we were standing

3462
02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:44,080
we were pointing it was just right over

3463
02:21:48,070 --> 02:21:46,240
there how did you not see it but we both

3464
02:21:50,389 --> 02:21:48,080
saw it i knew that i wasn't you know

3465
02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:50,399
seeing things so my eyes were open to

3466
02:21:55,190 --> 02:21:52,240
the possibilities i was also fortunate

3467
02:21:56,550 --> 02:21:55,200
too that my dad was involved in

3468
02:21:58,309 --> 02:21:56,560
a project where

3469
02:21:59,910 --> 02:21:58,319
the company the engineering firm that he

3470
02:22:01,590 --> 02:21:59,920
worked for developed a touchdown light

3471
02:22:03,670 --> 02:22:01,600
on the lunar module the first lunar

3472
02:22:05,590 --> 02:22:03,680
module on so he was tuned in to

3473
02:22:07,110 --> 02:22:05,600
everything with the space program and

3474
02:22:09,830 --> 02:22:07,120
brought all of that home

3475
02:22:11,510 --> 02:22:09,840
and i was tuned into it and you know

3476
02:22:14,150 --> 02:22:11,520
started studying the universe from a

3477
02:22:14,870 --> 02:22:14,160
very galactic perspective as a 10 year

3478
02:22:17,270 --> 02:22:14,880
old

3479
02:22:19,910 --> 02:22:17,280
and so i was tuned into the vastness of

3480
02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:19,920
space and questioned how we could be

3481
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:22,800
alone at a very young age so there was i

3482
02:22:26,950 --> 02:22:24,800
i've always had this sensibility of

3483
02:22:29,670 --> 02:22:26,960
we're galactic beings we're not

3484
02:22:31,510 --> 02:22:29,680
earthbound earth is just a container and

3485
02:22:33,030 --> 02:22:31,520
and we're if we choose to stay inside

3486
02:22:35,270 --> 02:22:33,040
the container we don't we don't get it

3487
02:22:38,870 --> 02:22:35,280
we don't see the the bigger picture

3488
02:22:43,190 --> 02:22:41,030
uh i have somebody here who's asking a

3489
02:22:46,070 --> 02:22:43,200
question in connecticut i was born and

3490
02:22:48,309 --> 02:22:46,080
raised in newtown connecticut and uh was

3491
02:22:50,469 --> 02:22:48,319
there for uh when that sighting was

3492
02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:50,479
probably in the early 70s

3493
02:22:55,030 --> 02:22:52,560
so uh if if you were around that same

3494
02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:55,040
time and you saw it bit m

3495
02:22:59,670 --> 02:22:57,520
let me know but yeah so john's doing his

3496
02:23:02,790 --> 02:22:59,680
own ama right now

3497
02:23:03,750 --> 02:23:02,800
i know he's doing his own amazing i'm

3498
02:23:08,710 --> 02:23:03,760
watching

3499
02:23:10,790 --> 02:23:08,720
john john is just just he's just

3500
02:23:13,349 --> 02:23:10,800
you know oh what'd you say i can can you

3501
02:23:15,349 --> 02:23:13,359
ask the question again i'm too busy too

3502
02:23:17,750 --> 02:23:15,359
busy doing my ama

3503
02:23:19,910 --> 02:23:17,760
in the chat um i wanted to check this

3504
02:23:21,830 --> 02:23:19,920
out now i told the audience about this

3505
02:23:24,150 --> 02:23:21,840
i'm going to share this with you too

3506
02:23:26,469 --> 02:23:24,160
i told the audience about this uh this

3507
02:23:27,670 --> 02:23:26,479
happened three weeks ago

3508
02:23:30,710 --> 02:23:27,680
and

3509
02:23:33,270 --> 02:23:30,720
everything that i should have done i

3510
02:23:35,030 --> 02:23:33,280
didn't do okay all right i made all the

3511
02:23:37,510 --> 02:23:35,040
classic mistakes

3512
02:23:41,030 --> 02:23:37,520
but this is what happened i was

3513
02:23:45,429 --> 02:23:41,040
south this is three weeks ago and this

3514
02:23:47,110 --> 02:23:45,439
story is so the sighting is so crazy

3515
02:23:49,910 --> 02:23:47,120
but it happened

3516
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:49,920
i'm i'm south of edwards air force base

3517
02:23:53,830 --> 02:23:51,760
um on the closest street that i could

3518
02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:53,840
get to three weeks ago

3519
02:23:57,349 --> 02:23:55,920
and uh and i'm standing there and i

3520
02:23:59,910 --> 02:23:57,359
could see

3521
02:24:01,429 --> 02:23:59,920
in front of me two radio towers and i

3522
02:24:04,230 --> 02:24:01,439
could see the red lights on the top

3523
02:24:06,710 --> 02:24:04,240
right and there's like a berm it's in

3524
02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:06,720
the desert right okay so there was like

3525
02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:08,080
this thing in front of me it was at

3526
02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:09,280
night

3527
02:24:13,349 --> 02:24:10,960
so i couldn't really see what was in

3528
02:24:14,790 --> 02:24:13,359
front of me if there was a fence there

3529
02:24:15,910 --> 02:24:14,800
and i thought that there might have been

3530
02:24:17,670 --> 02:24:15,920
a fence

3531
02:24:19,110 --> 02:24:17,680
um i'm parked on the side of the road i

3532
02:24:20,469 --> 02:24:19,120
get out of my car i go across the street

3533
02:24:23,030 --> 02:24:20,479
and i'm looking at

3534
02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:23,040
and at that moment

3535
02:24:26,150 --> 02:24:24,560
and i'm standing on the side of the road

3536
02:24:28,950 --> 02:24:26,160
no traffic i'm in the middle of the

3537
02:24:30,790 --> 02:24:28,960
desert at that moment this is what

3538
02:24:32,469 --> 02:24:30,800
happens in front of me in front of the

3539
02:24:33,670 --> 02:24:32,479
two radio towers

3540
02:24:36,550 --> 02:24:33,680
in the middle

3541
02:24:41,090 --> 02:24:36,560
this freaking thing in the blackness

3542
02:24:42,710 --> 02:24:41,100
this ring of blue white lights goes

3543
02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:42,720
[Music]

3544
02:24:46,389 --> 02:24:43,600
once

3545
02:24:48,550 --> 02:24:46,399
around in a circle i was like

3546
02:24:49,990 --> 02:24:48,560
what the heck what

3547
02:24:52,630 --> 02:24:50,000
no

3548
02:24:55,429 --> 02:24:52,640
what's right and i'm so i'm looking in

3549
02:24:57,510 --> 02:24:55,439
that spot and then it kind of flutters

3550
02:24:59,590 --> 02:24:57,520
right like jitters on the front of it

3551
02:25:02,309 --> 02:24:59,600
and i'm thinking oh it's a blimp

3552
02:25:05,190 --> 02:25:02,319
oh but over edwards right okay all right

3553
02:25:08,469 --> 02:25:05,200
i'm looking and then it goes again

3554
02:25:13,030 --> 02:25:08,479
and now i see it is round

3555
02:25:15,110 --> 02:25:13,040
and now i'm thinking it's just one lap

3556
02:25:17,429 --> 02:25:15,120
you know these lights but i could see it

3557
02:25:18,870 --> 02:25:17,439
on the front and then on the back

3558
02:25:22,309 --> 02:25:18,880
where the lights are lighting up i could

3559
02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:22,319
see the shadow right of the the this

3560
02:25:25,590 --> 02:25:23,439
whatever it is

3561
02:25:27,510 --> 02:25:25,600
now i'm thinking there's a third radio

3562
02:25:29,830 --> 02:25:27,520
tower and maybe this is something on the

3563
02:25:31,270 --> 02:25:29,840
top you know warning for the planes you

3564
02:25:32,950 --> 02:25:31,280
know you know

3565
02:25:36,830 --> 02:25:32,960
that's what i'm thinking

3566
02:25:40,309 --> 02:25:36,840
now in my right hand is my cell

3567
02:25:43,030 --> 02:25:40,319
phone down at my side and this happened

3568
02:25:45,030 --> 02:25:43,040
so quick and then i was like okay

3569
02:25:48,230 --> 02:25:45,040
all right i gotta shoot a video this is

3570
02:25:49,590 --> 02:25:48,240
this is too cool so i get my phone ready

3571
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:49,600
and and i'm

3572
02:25:54,070 --> 02:25:51,200
now i'm good

3573
02:25:55,990 --> 02:25:54,080
nothing happens i stand there for a half

3574
02:25:57,349 --> 02:25:56,000
an hour

3575
02:26:01,110 --> 02:25:57,359
i missed it

3576
02:26:04,230 --> 02:26:01,120
right and so i go back uh to my jeep and

3577
02:26:07,270 --> 02:26:04,240
i drive away and i'm just like what

3578
02:26:09,349 --> 02:26:07,280
was that but i thought that there was a

3579
02:26:11,910 --> 02:26:09,359
third radio tower that's i resolved it

3580
02:26:14,550 --> 02:26:11,920
in my mind the next day

3581
02:26:16,070 --> 02:26:14,560
i go back and i go back at like 11

3582
02:26:19,030 --> 02:26:16,080
o'clock in the morning

3583
02:26:20,950 --> 02:26:19,040
and i go back and i i go the same road

3584
02:26:23,670 --> 02:26:20,960
and i pulled over and there's my tire

3585
02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:23,680
tracks right i see that go across the

3586
02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:26,479
street there's my footprints and i look

3587
02:26:29,990 --> 02:26:27,600
up

3588
02:26:32,950 --> 02:26:30,000
and i see the two radio towers but you

3589
02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:32,960
know what's in between them

3590
02:26:36,630 --> 02:26:34,800
nothing

3591
02:26:37,510 --> 02:26:36,640
blue sky

3592
02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:37,520
oh

3593
02:26:42,469 --> 02:26:39,760
so whatever i saw

3594
02:26:44,309 --> 02:26:42,479
was in the air

3595
02:26:46,870 --> 02:26:44,319
above edwards

3596
02:26:49,910 --> 02:26:46,880
now that's all i can say that's i i know

3597
02:26:53,270 --> 02:26:51,510
[\h__\h]

3598
02:26:55,670 --> 02:26:53,280
but it's not

3599
02:26:57,510 --> 02:26:55,680
no it's not it's not especially if it's

3600
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:57,520
right over edwards it's right over

3601
02:27:03,030 --> 02:26:59,520
edward's chance that it could have been

3602
02:27:04,630 --> 02:27:03,040
some experimental and it caught me on

3603
02:27:06,550 --> 02:27:04,640
the whole thing caught me by surprise

3604
02:27:09,110 --> 02:27:06,560
and i had my phone in my hand because of

3605
02:27:10,070 --> 02:27:09,120
gps and my location

3606
02:27:12,389 --> 02:27:10,080
right

3607
02:27:14,630 --> 02:27:12,399
i did and it it happened so quick it

3608
02:27:16,469 --> 02:27:14,640
caught me by surprise and then when it

3609
02:27:18,309 --> 02:27:16,479
lit up the second time and then i

3610
02:27:20,630 --> 02:27:18,319
thought okay all right all right now i

3611
02:27:22,150 --> 02:27:20,640
got to get my

3612
02:27:25,110 --> 02:27:22,160
and it didn't happen

3613
02:27:27,190 --> 02:27:25,120
i i i missed the whole thing

3614
02:27:29,270 --> 02:27:27,200
i missed it i missed it i missed it all

3615
02:27:31,110 --> 02:27:29,280
of it you know so funny when i go would

3616
02:27:33,510 --> 02:27:31,120
you take a picture no i didn't have a

3617
02:27:35,590 --> 02:27:33,520
chance oh okay did you shoot video no i

3618
02:27:36,469 --> 02:27:35,600
didn't have a chat you know and here i

3619
02:27:38,870 --> 02:27:36,479
am

3620
02:27:40,630 --> 02:27:38,880
right with the cell phone in my hand

3621
02:27:44,469 --> 02:27:40,640
watching this go down

3622
02:27:46,150 --> 02:27:44,479
and it was absolutely insane it was

3623
02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:46,160
insane and i still

3624
02:27:50,070 --> 02:27:48,560
when i saw the blue sky in between the

3625
02:27:51,510 --> 02:27:50,080
radio towers

3626
02:27:57,910 --> 02:27:51,520
i i

3627
02:28:00,389 --> 02:27:57,920
i swear i was expecting a radio tower

3628
02:28:02,550 --> 02:28:00,399
and this round thing on the top of it no

3629
02:28:04,070 --> 02:28:02,560
not that big of a deal but no there was

3630
02:28:09,110 --> 02:28:04,080
nothing there

3631
02:28:13,670 --> 02:28:09,120
is listening to me right now going yeah

3632
02:28:18,309 --> 02:28:16,150
that's right he saw our 10 pm experience

3633
02:28:19,429 --> 02:28:18,319
yeah right they were like yeah it worked

3634
02:28:22,550 --> 02:28:19,439
we got it

3635
02:28:23,990 --> 02:28:22,560
we hooked them it's so funny oh man all

3636
02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:24,000
right uh

3637
02:28:28,150 --> 02:28:26,080
let's uh let's get down to brass tacks

3638
02:28:31,910 --> 02:28:28,160
i've only got a couple of minutes left

3639
02:28:34,070 --> 02:28:31,920
um you mentioned uh john i'm actually

3640
02:28:36,389 --> 02:28:34,080
gonna throw this to jack because i know

3641
02:28:38,309 --> 02:28:36,399
john's gonna give me the political uh

3642
02:28:40,550 --> 02:28:38,319
politician answer

3643
02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:40,560
jack john said earlier

3644
02:28:45,670 --> 02:28:42,880
that you guys are in rush mode to get

3645
02:28:48,550 --> 02:28:45,680
this to the pasadena film festival

3646
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:48,560
um you're going to get it to them as

3647
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:50,800
complete as possible

3648
02:28:56,550 --> 02:28:51,840
um

3649
02:28:57,190 --> 02:28:56,560
off but i think what john is also saying

3650
02:29:04,230 --> 02:28:57,200
is

3651
02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:04,240
between the film festival and the

3652
02:29:09,510 --> 02:29:07,600
release date at the end of november

3653
02:29:11,110 --> 02:29:09,520
it's just finishing touches it's it's

3654
02:29:13,030 --> 02:29:11,120
really you know a lot of times you'll

3655
02:29:15,349 --> 02:29:13,040
have a festival cut

3656
02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:15,359
and then after the festival you usually

3657
02:29:18,710 --> 02:29:17,120
have a couple months before the release

3658
02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:18,720
and then you can tweak things and stuff

3659
02:29:23,429 --> 02:29:22,319
like that so and john i would say you

3660
02:29:25,429 --> 02:29:23,439
know

3661
02:29:26,630 --> 02:29:25,439
his answer is going to be more

3662
02:29:29,270 --> 02:29:26,640
specific

3663
02:29:31,190 --> 02:29:29,280
as to the editing but uh it's almost

3664
02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:31,200
there so it's just a question of there

3665
02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:32,560
might be little things that need to be

3666
02:29:37,110 --> 02:29:34,160
done on the back end is

3667
02:29:39,110 --> 02:29:37,120
is that accurate john oh so he gave me

3668
02:29:41,830 --> 02:29:39,120
the political answer

3669
02:29:44,150 --> 02:29:41,840
jack just handed it off

3670
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:44,160
i don't know i mean it's it it's in good

3671
02:29:47,110 --> 02:29:45,760
shape i mean but it's it's there are

3672
02:29:49,270 --> 02:29:47,120
little things right i mean there's

3673
02:29:51,429 --> 02:29:49,280
always little things so john you're

3674
02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:51,439
you're you're you're comfortable enough

3675
02:29:56,389 --> 02:29:53,920
and you're happy enough uh where you are

3676
02:29:57,910 --> 02:29:56,399
now for the the premiere at the film

3677
02:30:00,309 --> 02:29:57,920
festival

3678
02:30:02,710 --> 02:30:00,319
yeah and the main reason why is because

3679
02:30:05,750 --> 02:30:02,720
who is doing the work and i know he's

3680
02:30:08,150 --> 02:30:05,760
listening patrick lumentini our editor

3681
02:30:11,190 --> 02:30:08,160
uh he had a little bit of a setback due

3682
02:30:14,710 --> 02:30:11,200
to an unexpected death in the family and

3683
02:30:16,150 --> 02:30:14,720
uh our our heart was with him the entire

3684
02:30:18,309 --> 02:30:16,160
process that he went through the

3685
02:30:20,230 --> 02:30:18,319
grieving process and we gave him as much

3686
02:30:22,070 --> 02:30:20,240
time as he needed and i think it was

3687
02:30:23,830 --> 02:30:22,080
important you know for that level of

3688
02:30:25,990 --> 02:30:23,840
support for him and

3689
02:30:27,750 --> 02:30:26,000
that's life and life is definitely much

3690
02:30:30,469 --> 02:30:27,760
more important than anything that we're

3691
02:30:32,469 --> 02:30:30,479
working on and we gave him that latitude

3692
02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:32,479
so i'm not saying that it put us behind

3693
02:30:37,270 --> 02:30:34,319
it just gave us

3694
02:30:39,910 --> 02:30:37,280
a new deadline to to shoot for so i know

3695
02:30:42,469 --> 02:30:39,920
that patrick is listening and editing

3696
02:30:44,150 --> 02:30:42,479
probably as he's listening to this right

3697
02:30:46,710 --> 02:30:44,160
now so i appreciate you know the effort

3698
02:30:48,950 --> 02:30:46,720
that he's doing there but primarily what

3699
02:30:51,910 --> 02:30:48,960
will happen between the festival cut and

3700
02:30:53,750 --> 02:30:51,920
the final cut is is sound

3701
02:30:56,150 --> 02:30:53,760
will be better there will be additional

3702
02:30:57,510 --> 02:30:56,160
music cues and some effect sounds that

3703
02:30:59,990 --> 02:30:57,520
will go in or that most people wouldn't

3704
02:31:02,230 --> 02:31:00,000
even notice but i do and when i listen

3705
02:31:04,710 --> 02:31:02,240
to the movie or watch the movie with

3706
02:31:06,710 --> 02:31:04,720
headphones on it's a sonic explosion and

3707
02:31:08,150 --> 02:31:06,720
i love everything that our our the

3708
02:31:10,550 --> 02:31:08,160
person who scores our film and does the

3709
02:31:13,190 --> 02:31:10,560
sound anton patzner phenomenal

3710
02:31:15,270 --> 02:31:13,200
absolutely anybody who has not watched

3711
02:31:17,990 --> 02:31:15,280
uh extraordinary the seating with

3712
02:31:19,429 --> 02:31:18,000
headphones on i encourage you to do it

3713
02:31:21,429 --> 02:31:19,439
you will have a completely different

3714
02:31:23,510 --> 02:31:21,439
experience because of the sound textures

3715
02:31:25,349 --> 02:31:23,520
that are in there so those are the

3716
02:31:26,790 --> 02:31:25,359
things that the minutia that goes on

3717
02:31:28,389 --> 02:31:26,800
there will be probably some b-roll

3718
02:31:30,150 --> 02:31:28,399
tweaks that we might make they'll you

3719
02:31:32,630 --> 02:31:30,160
know there's some compositing things

3720
02:31:34,150 --> 02:31:32,640
that we do that patrick is really good

3721
02:31:36,309 --> 02:31:34,160
at and i think that's kind of like his

3722
02:31:38,630 --> 02:31:36,319
signature that we'll just

3723
02:31:40,710 --> 02:31:38,640
add to it between the cuts

3724
02:31:42,870 --> 02:31:40,720
so it'll just be a little bit better

3725
02:31:45,590 --> 02:31:42,880
patrick uh i hope you're listening thank

3726
02:31:47,590 --> 02:31:45,600
you so much and the cuts of the film

3727
02:31:51,270 --> 02:31:47,600
that i have seen it's one of the first

3728
02:31:53,270 --> 02:31:51,280
comments that i made to john is uh wow

3729
02:31:55,590 --> 02:31:53,280
right wow and it's only going to get

3730
02:31:58,550 --> 02:31:55,600
better and that was back then and

3731
02:32:01,240 --> 02:31:58,560
and uh patrick thank you so much for all

3732
02:32:02,469 --> 02:32:01,250
of your hard work and anton mann right

3733
02:32:06,070 --> 02:32:02,479
[Laughter]

3734
02:32:08,550 --> 02:32:06,080
big big big big applause uh to

3735
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:08,560
everything that anton has done sonically

3736
02:32:12,790 --> 02:32:10,880
to this to this picture jack thank you

3737
02:32:15,349 --> 02:32:12,800
so much we're going to be hanging out

3738
02:32:17,990 --> 02:32:15,359
guys check this out in two weeks

3739
02:32:20,630 --> 02:32:18,000
in pasadena i can't

3740
02:32:23,190 --> 02:32:20,640
i can't believe it i can't believe it

3741
02:32:26,389 --> 02:32:23,200
thank you so much uh

3742
02:32:30,309 --> 02:32:26,399
again big applause uh to the both of you

3743
02:32:32,309 --> 02:32:30,319
uh the the three j's and of course the l

3744
02:32:34,630 --> 02:32:32,319
uh for getting this thing done thank you

3745
02:32:36,790 --> 02:32:34,640
so much and enjoy the rest of your night

3746
02:32:39,110 --> 02:32:36,800
john it's five o'clock in the morning in

3747
02:32:40,870 --> 02:32:39,120
south africa but i'll see you in two

3748
02:32:43,110 --> 02:32:40,880
weeks my friend

3749
02:32:45,110 --> 02:32:43,120
sounds good thank you so much jack

3750
02:32:47,590 --> 02:32:45,120
thanks jimmy thank you so much man

3751
02:32:48,790 --> 02:32:47,600
always fun bel air jack roth that's what

3752
02:32:51,510 --> 02:32:48,800
we call them

3753
02:32:53,750 --> 02:32:51,520
bellaire jaguar thank you guys so much

3754
02:32:57,349 --> 02:32:53,760
the film is extraordinary the

3755
02:32:59,670 --> 02:32:57,359
revelations the trailer is up at uh on

3756
02:33:02,469 --> 02:32:59,680
our youtube channel go and check it out

3757
02:33:03,750 --> 02:33:02,479
and i'll get everything that you need to

3758
02:33:05,110 --> 02:33:03,760
go and check out the film here in

3759
02:33:07,349 --> 02:33:05,120
pasadena

3760
02:33:09,820 --> 02:33:07,359
september 11th thank you john thank you

3761
02:33:30,230 --> 02:33:09,830
jack have a great night

3762
02:33:32,550 --> 02:33:30,240
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it's not a lifestyle we chose we were

3851
02:38:02,950 --> 02:37:59,190
this is kjcr at jimmy's

3852
02:38:23,429 --> 02:38:13,160
[Music]

3853
02:38:27,830 --> 02:38:25,429
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

3854
02:38:31,510 --> 02:38:27,840
your host jimmy

3855
02:38:35,349 --> 02:38:31,520
john sumple jack roth the new film and

3856
02:38:38,230 --> 02:38:35,359
uh again we've uh uh got the trailer up

3857
02:38:41,190 --> 02:38:38,240
on our youtube channel and we did the

3858
02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:41,200
premiere for that at 6 00 p.m uh earlier

3859
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:44,240
today you can go and and check that out

3860
02:38:48,389 --> 02:38:46,240
i will post it up if you're listening to

3861
02:38:51,510 --> 02:38:48,399
me now and you're not over on youtube

3862
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:51,520
uh i will post uh the links up uh for

3863
02:38:55,349 --> 02:38:52,800
everybody

3864
02:38:56,950 --> 02:38:55,359
uh in social media where you can go and

3865
02:38:58,870 --> 02:38:56,960
uh check it out

3866
02:39:01,750 --> 02:38:58,880
and uh

3867
02:39:05,910 --> 02:39:01,760
the film to for

3868
02:39:09,110 --> 02:39:05,920
for me in my own little way my own

3869
02:39:12,230 --> 02:39:09,120
you know my contribution to the film uh

3870
02:39:15,910 --> 02:39:12,240
is it's just an honor and a privilege

3871
02:39:18,870 --> 02:39:15,920
and sure right i've always wanted to uh

3872
02:39:20,790 --> 02:39:18,880
to get in on on a film and and and

3873
02:39:21,830 --> 02:39:20,800
narrate i didn't know if it would ever

3874
02:39:23,750 --> 02:39:21,840
happen

3875
02:39:25,910 --> 02:39:23,760
but uh to

3876
02:39:27,190 --> 02:39:25,920
to be able to do this with this film at

3877
02:39:30,550 --> 02:39:27,200
this time

3878
02:39:34,070 --> 02:39:30,560
uh it's just insane to me it's it's it's

3879
02:39:37,110 --> 02:39:34,080
just well it's cool but then

3880
02:39:39,830 --> 02:39:37,120
it's the pasadena film festival and and

3881
02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:39,840
to be able to go through all of that my

3882
02:39:45,030 --> 02:39:41,760
little life's journey

3883
02:39:47,510 --> 02:39:45,040
um those little bucket list things are

3884
02:39:49,830 --> 02:39:47,520
are slowly getting checked off

3885
02:39:53,429 --> 02:39:49,840
and and i want to thank john i want to

3886
02:39:54,950 --> 02:39:53,439
thank uh jack and the entire team over

3887
02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:54,960
at uh j3

3888
02:40:00,950 --> 02:39:58,479
and of course uh lori wagner who is

3889
02:40:02,710 --> 02:40:00,960
uh such an important cog in the machine

3890
02:40:05,990 --> 02:40:02,720
and and lori thank you so much for

3891
02:40:08,630 --> 02:40:06,000
everything and so there you go it is the

3892
02:40:09,670 --> 02:40:08,640
pasadena film festival it is going on

3893
02:40:12,550 --> 02:40:09,680
all week

3894
02:40:15,269 --> 02:40:12,560
uh that week of uh the second week of

3895
02:40:16,070 --> 02:40:15,279
september but uh this will be saturday

3896
02:40:19,429 --> 02:40:16,080
night

3897
02:40:21,349 --> 02:40:19,439
september 11th in pasadena and the

3898
02:40:23,349 --> 02:40:21,359
specific theater the location and the

3899
02:40:25,590 --> 02:40:23,359
time i'll get that up in social media

3900
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:25,600
but i want you fader knots to come hang

3901
02:40:29,190 --> 02:40:28,160
out with me and celebrate and enjoy the

3902
02:40:31,510 --> 02:40:29,200
moment

3903
02:40:34,309 --> 02:40:31,520
okay all right thank you so much jack

3904
02:40:38,230 --> 02:40:34,319
thank you john again for the opportunity

3905
02:40:39,990 --> 02:40:38,240
and uh it is uh very very cool with that

3906
02:40:42,630 --> 02:40:40,000
i've opened up the phone line seven four

3907
02:40:45,269 --> 02:40:42,640
seven two two eight two zero five one

3908
02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:45,279
lots of developments over the last week

3909
02:40:48,950 --> 02:40:46,720
oh um

3910
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:48,960
i just wanted to say this to everybody

3911
02:40:54,389 --> 02:40:52,080
and i spaced it while uh jack and john

3912
02:40:56,790 --> 02:40:54,399
were on the show um i spoke to lou

3913
02:40:58,870 --> 02:40:56,800
elizondo a couple times today but i

3914
02:41:00,230 --> 02:40:58,880
spoke to him right before the show

3915
02:41:02,230 --> 02:41:00,240
and i said dude

3916
02:41:04,469 --> 02:41:02,240
i've got to go live in 30 minutes and he

3917
02:41:06,870 --> 02:41:04,479
goes oh okay well one more thing i'm

3918
02:41:10,150 --> 02:41:06,880
like lou and he goes no jimmy one more

3919
02:41:13,590 --> 02:41:10,160
thing uh tell the fader not i said hello

3920
02:41:16,309 --> 02:41:13,600
and all is well so i'm sharing that

3921
02:41:17,510 --> 02:41:16,319
uh with all of you okay all right with

3922
02:41:19,670 --> 02:41:17,520
that

3923
02:41:21,910 --> 02:41:19,680
let's see i've uh put together this new

3924
02:41:23,750 --> 02:41:21,920
studio listening to this echo

3925
02:41:26,070 --> 02:41:23,760
see when i talk quiet

3926
02:41:30,230 --> 02:41:26,080
see no echo it's not bouncing off the

3927
02:41:32,950 --> 02:41:30,240
wall if i whisper if i'm down low but if

3928
02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:32,960
i talk in my normal voice

3929
02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:34,960
we get the bounce off the walls it's

3930
02:41:41,349 --> 02:41:37,680
pretty trippy it'll be gone tomorrow so

3931
02:41:43,510 --> 02:41:41,359
enjoy it tonight uh let's uh see who is

3932
02:41:45,510 --> 02:41:43,520
up first hi you're live on fade to block

3933
02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:45,520
who's calling

3934
02:41:50,710 --> 02:41:47,760
hey jimmy it's eric the awakening man

3935
02:41:52,870 --> 02:41:50,720
eric the awakening man

3936
02:41:55,110 --> 02:41:52,880
you say the awakening man

3937
02:41:56,950 --> 02:41:55,120
to separate you

3938
02:41:59,269 --> 02:41:56,960
from all of the other eric's of the

3939
02:42:00,790 --> 02:41:59,279
world and i i i appreciate that and

3940
02:42:04,150 --> 02:42:00,800
respect it because there's a lot of

3941
02:42:06,790 --> 02:42:04,160
imitators out there so you need to

3942
02:42:12,230 --> 02:42:06,800
make sure to the audience

3943
02:42:13,510 --> 02:42:12,240
that this is the awakening man well done

3944
02:42:15,590 --> 02:42:13,520
well you know there's a lot of great

3945
02:42:17,429 --> 02:42:15,600
eric's out there as you know

3946
02:42:18,870 --> 02:42:17,439
uh they're they're they're eric the

3947
02:42:20,870 --> 02:42:18,880
viking

3948
02:42:22,630 --> 02:42:20,880
you got eric [\h__\h]

3949
02:42:24,309 --> 02:42:22,640
eric stitt

3950
02:42:27,590 --> 02:42:24,319
eric stitch

3951
02:42:29,110 --> 02:42:27,600
eric stitt he's amazing he's amazing so

3952
02:42:30,950 --> 02:42:29,120
um uh

3953
02:42:33,990 --> 02:42:30,960
what uh you know

3954
02:42:36,870 --> 02:42:34,000
you know what's really funny eric and uh

3955
02:42:39,670 --> 02:42:36,880
uh we'll chat in just a second

3956
02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:39,680
but it's so funny if we look at the last

3957
02:42:43,750 --> 02:42:41,680
10 years and go wow right and then you

3958
02:42:46,469 --> 02:42:43,760
go the last five years the last four

3959
02:42:48,870 --> 02:42:46,479
years last three years the the last year

3960
02:42:49,910 --> 02:42:48,880
the last three months the last three

3961
02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:49,920
weeks

3962
02:43:00,870 --> 02:42:59,030
yeah i mean are you are you talking are

3963
02:43:02,710 --> 02:43:00,880
you wanting me to respond of course i

3964
02:43:04,710 --> 02:43:02,720
want you to just like you and i are

3965
02:43:06,950 --> 02:43:04,720
sitting on my couch

3966
02:43:10,309 --> 02:43:06,960
let me first comment on jack and john

3967
02:43:12,150 --> 02:43:10,319
because i i remember when uh when stan

3968
02:43:13,830 --> 02:43:12,160
romanex film came out

3969
02:43:16,469 --> 02:43:13,840
and this is when i was first doing my

3970
02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:16,479
deep dive into the research of ufology

3971
02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:17,279
and

3972
02:43:24,070 --> 02:43:22,960
it dragged out before they could

3973
02:43:25,670 --> 02:43:24,080
actually

3974
02:43:27,590 --> 02:43:25,680
release the film and all the hoops that

3975
02:43:29,670 --> 02:43:27,600
they had to jump through and i thought

3976
02:43:31,110 --> 02:43:29,680
man these guys these guys have courage

3977
02:43:32,790 --> 02:43:31,120
they've got guts

3978
02:43:34,389 --> 02:43:32,800
um so i started following them and then

3979
02:43:36,150 --> 02:43:34,399
when i found out that they were coming

3980
02:43:38,309 --> 02:43:36,160
out with these other films like they did

3981
02:43:40,469 --> 02:43:38,319
the second one and now the third one

3982
02:43:41,590 --> 02:43:40,479
um these guys are top shelf and i'm not

3983
02:43:43,349 --> 02:43:41,600
just saying that because you just had

3984
02:43:45,190 --> 02:43:43,359
them on the show from all the research

3985
02:43:46,630 --> 02:43:45,200
that i've done if i was going to pick

3986
02:43:48,389 --> 02:43:46,640
one group of people that that are

3987
02:43:49,990 --> 02:43:48,399
putting out content

3988
02:43:53,190 --> 02:43:50,000
these are the people that i would select

3989
02:43:58,630 --> 02:43:53,200
as number one in my opinion yeah they uh

3990
02:44:01,830 --> 02:43:58,640
a very very talented group um that

3991
02:44:04,790 --> 02:44:01,840
are are are here for the community and

3992
02:44:07,990 --> 02:44:04,800
it's it's it's really true incredible

3993
02:44:09,830 --> 02:44:08,000
and uh and laurie wagner you know

3994
02:44:11,510 --> 02:44:09,840
the three of us tonight have said her

3995
02:44:13,349 --> 02:44:11,520
name so much but

3996
02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:13,359
um it it's

3997
02:44:15,750 --> 02:44:14,640
she

3998
02:44:19,030 --> 02:44:15,760
her

3999
02:44:21,349 --> 02:44:19,040
most people in the community um

4000
02:44:22,630 --> 02:44:21,359
she prefers to run in the background she

4001
02:44:26,389 --> 02:44:22,640
just does

4002
02:44:28,950 --> 02:44:26,399
and uh her research and how she put and

4003
02:44:31,190 --> 02:44:28,960
her involvement in all of this and i

4004
02:44:33,990 --> 02:44:31,200
know about her other projects and

4005
02:44:35,910 --> 02:44:34,000
she she's just amazing so yeah you're

4006
02:44:39,750 --> 02:44:35,920
right j3 films

4007
02:44:41,910 --> 02:44:39,760
um uh just just just top-notch top-notch

4008
02:44:43,349 --> 02:44:41,920
so thank you for saying that yeah

4009
02:44:46,070 --> 02:44:43,359
yeah and you know what here's what

4010
02:44:47,990 --> 02:44:46,080
stands out is they're willing to take it

4011
02:44:49,590 --> 02:44:48,000
to a level that a lot of these other

4012
02:44:51,349 --> 02:44:49,600
people that are putting out stuff are

4013
02:44:52,950 --> 02:44:51,359
kind of just touching on but they'll

4014
02:44:54,710 --> 02:44:52,960
take a deep dive and they're not afraid

4015
02:44:56,309 --> 02:44:54,720
to put people out there that people may

4016
02:44:58,230 --> 02:44:56,319
not know about or know a lot about or

4017
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:58,240
heard a lot about but when you get to

4018
02:45:01,269 --> 02:44:59,600
know these people and you hear their

4019
02:45:02,710 --> 02:45:01,279
stories and then you have another film

4020
02:45:04,550 --> 02:45:02,720
after that and then another film after

4021
02:45:06,870 --> 02:45:04,560
that the whole picture starts to become

4022
02:45:10,870 --> 02:45:06,880
clear that these people are not wackos

4023
02:45:12,790 --> 02:45:10,880
or yahoos or or hoaxers in my opinion i

4024
02:45:14,710 --> 02:45:12,800
think they're legit and people need to

4025
02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:14,720
accept that there are legit experiencers

4026
02:45:18,469 --> 02:45:16,560
out there having these legit experiences

4027
02:45:20,309 --> 02:45:18,479
sure there's hoaxers out there but that

4028
02:45:23,030 --> 02:45:20,319
doesn't we can't discount the fact that

4029
02:45:25,510 --> 02:45:23,040
this is a real phenomenon in my opinion

4030
02:45:26,950 --> 02:45:25,520
yeah i think the hoaxing side of things

4031
02:45:30,550 --> 02:45:26,960
uh

4032
02:45:33,269 --> 02:45:30,560
well we're using hoax as a as a general

4033
02:45:36,550 --> 02:45:33,279
and broad term but uh

4034
02:45:38,630 --> 02:45:36,560
uh people that may make things up

4035
02:45:40,389 --> 02:45:38,640
okay right okay

4036
02:45:43,750 --> 02:45:40,399
so uh there

4037
02:45:45,590 --> 02:45:43,760
that does go on but it the ufo community

4038
02:45:47,990 --> 02:45:45,600
is very smart

4039
02:45:49,830 --> 02:45:48,000
and they read through things pretty

4040
02:45:53,670 --> 02:45:49,840
quick and they have uh

4041
02:45:55,990 --> 02:45:53,680
they have their own way of vetting

4042
02:45:57,429 --> 02:45:56,000
you know should we have a commission a

4043
02:46:00,309 --> 02:45:57,439
high commission

4044
02:46:01,910 --> 02:46:00,319
right and and and and everybody gets

4045
02:46:04,550 --> 02:46:01,920
vetted through the high commission

4046
02:46:07,110 --> 02:46:04,560
before you are allowed to venture into

4047
02:46:09,910 --> 02:46:07,120
the ufo community no that's not what the

4048
02:46:12,150 --> 02:46:09,920
ufo community is about we welcome

4049
02:46:16,070 --> 02:46:12,160
everybody share your story share your

4050
02:46:17,830 --> 02:46:16,080
experience but if you are bsing

4051
02:46:20,309 --> 02:46:17,840
you're gonna get you're gonna get found

4052
02:46:22,630 --> 02:46:20,319
out and your journey is is

4053
02:46:26,389 --> 02:46:22,640
is very short in the in the ufo

4054
02:46:27,269 --> 02:46:26,399
community and and that's look the

4055
02:46:29,830 --> 02:46:27,279
the

4056
02:46:31,750 --> 02:46:29,840
sighting that i had three weeks ago i

4057
02:46:34,309 --> 02:46:31,760
didn't have that with anybody there

4058
02:46:38,150 --> 02:46:34,319
wasn't somebody there to

4059
02:46:40,469 --> 02:46:38,160
uh corroborate or or back backup or or

4060
02:46:43,590 --> 02:46:40,479
whatever or to support that's not there

4061
02:46:48,630 --> 02:46:43,600
it's only my experience of my own

4062
02:46:50,150 --> 02:46:48,640
and i didn't but it was absolutely nuts

4063
02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:50,160
and

4064
02:46:54,550 --> 02:46:52,319
what do we do with that well it's the

4065
02:46:56,070 --> 02:46:54,560
same thing with anybody else

4066
02:46:58,469 --> 02:46:56,080
you know if they have a sighting and

4067
02:47:00,550 --> 02:46:58,479
they've seen something well okay all

4068
02:47:01,349 --> 02:47:00,560
right we need to uh

4069
02:47:07,110 --> 02:47:01,359
uh

4070
02:47:09,429 --> 02:47:07,120
i didn't i didn't video i didn't take a

4071
02:47:11,830 --> 02:47:09,439
picture it's just a story

4072
02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:11,840
but it's my reality and it and it

4073
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:12,800
happened

4074
02:47:16,950 --> 02:47:14,800
so there you go all right so what's on

4075
02:47:18,630 --> 02:47:16,960
your mind eric

4076
02:47:20,710 --> 02:47:18,640
no well a lot of things i'm i'm psyched

4077
02:47:22,150 --> 02:47:20,720
that you got angelie on on wednesday

4078
02:47:24,070 --> 02:47:22,160
because i mean uh

4079
02:47:25,590 --> 02:47:24,080
i'm i'm just observing everything after

4080
02:47:27,110 --> 02:47:25,600
she did her press conference and i'm

4081
02:47:28,710 --> 02:47:27,120
watching her on twitter and i'm watching

4082
02:47:30,550 --> 02:47:28,720
how she's interacting with people and

4083
02:47:32,630 --> 02:47:30,560
how people are testing her to see if

4084
02:47:34,630 --> 02:47:32,640
they could you know get ruffle her

4085
02:47:36,790 --> 02:47:34,640
feathers or whatever but she's very

4086
02:47:38,790 --> 02:47:36,800
poised and professional on how she

4087
02:47:40,630 --> 02:47:38,800
responds and reacts to people's comments

4088
02:47:41,990 --> 02:47:40,640
and i so i respect that

4089
02:47:43,269 --> 02:47:42,000
i'm really looking forward to your

4090
02:47:45,269 --> 02:47:43,279
interview because there's a lot of

4091
02:47:46,790 --> 02:47:45,279
questions that i would like to ask her

4092
02:47:48,550 --> 02:47:46,800
that i'm sure you're going to ask her so

4093
02:47:50,950 --> 02:47:48,560
now

4094
02:47:52,309 --> 02:47:50,960
i'm just i i think that uh

4095
02:47:53,750 --> 02:47:52,319
because the bottom line is this she's

4096
02:47:56,070 --> 02:47:53,760
saying that something's going to go down

4097
02:47:57,269 --> 02:47:56,080
here this year is what she said so i

4098
02:47:58,710 --> 02:47:57,279
mean this isn't something that's going

4099
02:48:00,070 --> 02:47:58,720
to get dragged out for two or three

4100
02:48:01,990 --> 02:48:00,080
years we're gonna

4101
02:48:03,429 --> 02:48:02,000
she's i'm getting the impression that

4102
02:48:05,670 --> 02:48:03,439
something we're gonna know one way or

4103
02:48:07,269 --> 02:48:05,680
the other what's going on here probably

4104
02:48:08,070 --> 02:48:07,279
in the next six months that's exciting

4105
02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:08,080
to me

4106
02:48:15,510 --> 02:48:12,880
there is um uh she for me is a little

4107
02:48:17,510 --> 02:48:15,520
bit different eric uh stay right there

4108
02:48:18,389 --> 02:48:17,520
for a second just stay right there

4109
02:48:21,750 --> 02:48:18,399
um

4110
02:48:23,990 --> 02:48:21,760
uh i have to uh uh silence and and and

4111
02:48:27,269 --> 02:48:24,000
get rid of something really quick

4112
02:48:28,790 --> 02:48:27,279
all right i'm here i'm doing that here

4113
02:48:31,110 --> 02:48:28,800
okay

4114
02:48:34,790 --> 02:48:31,120
all right now let's uh get eric back on

4115
02:48:37,269 --> 02:48:34,800
the line eric um uh check this out uh

4116
02:48:39,429 --> 02:48:37,279
when it comes to anjali

4117
02:48:41,429 --> 02:48:39,439
um

4118
02:48:46,710 --> 02:48:41,439
i have

4119
02:48:49,190 --> 02:48:46,720
her her background and her work history

4120
02:48:51,510 --> 02:48:49,200
and and you look at this

4121
02:48:53,830 --> 02:48:51,520
and i don't

4122
02:48:56,150 --> 02:48:53,840
uh we're going to be discussing this on

4123
02:48:57,590 --> 02:48:56,160
on wednesday night but i want everybody

4124
02:49:01,590 --> 02:48:57,600
to

4125
02:49:05,590 --> 02:49:01,600
currently

4126
02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:05,600
uh 2017 2021 human factors intelligence

4127
02:49:10,309 --> 02:49:08,560
human factors intelligence consultant

4128
02:49:14,790 --> 02:49:10,319
now what does that mean well let's back

4129
02:49:18,389 --> 02:49:14,800
up from 2015 to 2016 she worked for

4130
02:49:20,870 --> 02:49:18,399
um at katmai government services social

4131
02:49:22,150 --> 02:49:20,880
media and open source intelligence

4132
02:49:24,790 --> 02:49:22,160
instructor

4133
02:49:28,309 --> 02:49:24,800
at the marine corps air ground combat

4134
02:49:30,790 --> 02:49:28,319
center in 29 poems now what does that

4135
02:49:35,830 --> 02:49:30,800
mean all right let's back up

4136
02:49:36,630 --> 02:49:35,840
her overall um description of her

4137
02:49:41,910 --> 02:49:36,640
uh

4138
02:49:43,429 --> 02:49:41,920
is this is right here it says

4139
02:49:47,030 --> 02:49:43,439
information

4140
02:49:53,750 --> 02:49:47,040
io

4141
02:49:58,870 --> 02:49:53,760
iw intelligence expert for onsen and

4142
02:50:00,790 --> 02:49:58,880
sockman um sme human factors profiler

4143
02:50:04,230 --> 02:50:00,800
international security affairs for

4144
02:50:07,190 --> 02:50:04,240
russia mina nessa global dark and deep

4145
02:50:09,990 --> 02:50:07,200
web exploitation

4146
02:50:11,110 --> 02:50:10,000
okay now let me continue

4147
02:50:14,790 --> 02:50:11,120
um

4148
02:50:18,070 --> 02:50:14,800
from 2006 to 2009 she worked for bae

4149
02:50:20,950 --> 02:50:18,080
systems a lead intelligence analyst

4150
02:50:23,269 --> 02:50:20,960
global analysis for the defense

4151
02:50:25,670 --> 02:50:23,279
intelligence agency

4152
02:50:28,309 --> 02:50:25,680
then before that defense intelligence

4153
02:50:32,469 --> 02:50:28,319
agency she was an intelligence liaison

4154
02:50:37,030 --> 02:50:32,479
officer executive support office j2j3 at

4155
02:50:39,830 --> 02:50:37,040
the pentagon from 2005 to 2006.

4156
02:50:42,469 --> 02:50:39,840
uh before that lee team lead human

4157
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:42,479
factors leadership defense intelligence

4158
02:50:47,030 --> 02:50:46,000
agency director interagency country

4159
02:50:49,429 --> 02:50:47,040
review

4160
02:50:52,389 --> 02:50:49,439
project from 2000 that was throughout

4161
02:50:54,469 --> 02:50:52,399
2005. before that lead intelligence

4162
02:50:58,590 --> 02:50:54,479
officer information

4163
02:51:01,990 --> 02:50:58,600
operations information warfare io iw

4164
02:51:02,870 --> 02:51:02,000
2004-2005 in washington d.c

4165
02:51:05,349 --> 02:51:02,880
now

4166
02:51:06,550 --> 02:51:05,359
and uh she was in the air force uh

4167
02:51:09,030 --> 02:51:06,560
before that and there's some more

4168
02:51:12,230 --> 02:51:09,040
information here now this is the deal

4169
02:51:14,070 --> 02:51:12,240
when you present

4170
02:51:16,870 --> 02:51:14,080
a cv

4171
02:51:19,349 --> 02:51:16,880
of your employment history that says

4172
02:51:22,230 --> 02:51:19,359
these things in it

4173
02:51:23,750 --> 02:51:22,240
this is vettable and actionable

4174
02:51:26,389 --> 02:51:23,760
information

4175
02:51:28,469 --> 02:51:26,399
so when we talk about people that have

4176
02:51:31,670 --> 02:51:28,479
surfaced in the past that have said they

4177
02:51:35,590 --> 02:51:31,680
did this or they did that without any

4178
02:51:38,389 --> 02:51:35,600
anything to back it up well um anjali is

4179
02:51:39,429 --> 02:51:38,399
is giving all of this up front and in

4180
02:51:42,070 --> 02:51:39,439
her

4181
02:51:43,590 --> 02:51:42,080
um now i'm not saying i'm i'm backing

4182
02:51:46,550 --> 02:51:43,600
any of this that's not what i'm saying

4183
02:51:47,910 --> 02:51:46,560
i'm saying for us as a community we have

4184
02:51:51,429 --> 02:51:47,920
something here

4185
02:51:53,269 --> 02:51:51,439
to to look into and it's actionable

4186
02:51:55,670 --> 02:51:53,279
right there's a place to go there's

4187
02:51:58,309 --> 02:51:55,680
things to research here but in her press

4188
02:52:00,469 --> 02:51:58,319
conference she gave all of her aliases

4189
02:52:02,309 --> 02:52:00,479
right all of her previous days

4190
02:52:03,429 --> 02:52:02,319
all of her current names and spelled

4191
02:52:06,950 --> 02:52:03,439
them out

4192
02:52:08,550 --> 02:52:06,960
uh to allow anybody to go and look into

4193
02:52:09,910 --> 02:52:08,560
her background

4194
02:52:11,349 --> 02:52:09,920
and that

4195
02:52:14,550 --> 02:52:11,359
with um

4196
02:52:17,670 --> 02:52:14,560
uh with most uh that have surfaced and

4197
02:52:20,070 --> 02:52:17,680
that includes lou elizondo and and when

4198
02:52:23,110 --> 02:52:20,080
i look at you know lou has given us his

4199
02:52:23,910 --> 02:52:23,120
background right and has laid it all out

4200
02:52:26,950 --> 02:52:23,920
there

4201
02:52:29,510 --> 02:52:26,960
for us to go see his his background

4202
02:52:31,990 --> 02:52:29,520
um and can i cut you off real quick well

4203
02:52:35,349 --> 02:52:32,000
but no let me say this that with all

4204
02:52:36,790 --> 02:52:35,359
right with her list of where she was and

4205
02:52:39,590 --> 02:52:36,800
what she it

4206
02:52:41,590 --> 02:52:39,600
it's it's pretty strong i'm wondering

4207
02:52:42,950 --> 02:52:41,600
if she ever bumped into lou in the halls

4208
02:52:44,870 --> 02:52:42,960
of the pentagon

4209
02:52:46,950 --> 02:52:44,880
you know or that's exactly what i was

4210
02:52:47,750 --> 02:52:46,960
just going to ask you actually

4211
02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:47,760
right

4212
02:52:50,950 --> 02:52:49,600
can you repeal any conversations that

4213
02:52:52,870 --> 02:52:50,960
you've had with lou privately that

4214
02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:52,880
wouldn't be uh you know compromising to

4215
02:52:57,030 --> 02:52:54,880
your friendship as far as what's his

4216
02:52:58,230 --> 02:52:57,040
take or what what if he thinks that okay

4217
02:53:00,070 --> 02:52:58,240
there's a chance here this could be

4218
02:53:01,990 --> 02:53:00,080
legit or maybe it's a double reverse

4219
02:53:03,750 --> 02:53:02,000
psyop or whatever i mean it's one of the

4220
02:53:06,230 --> 02:53:03,760
other it's either legit or it's a psyop

4221
02:53:09,349 --> 02:53:06,240
i mean there's no in between here sure

4222
02:53:12,070 --> 02:53:09,359
and i will leave that uh to lou

4223
02:53:14,469 --> 02:53:12,080
uh my short answer is no i would never

4224
02:53:15,349 --> 02:53:14,479
uh discuss any private conversations but

4225
02:53:17,349 --> 02:53:15,359
lou

4226
02:53:19,349 --> 02:53:17,359
if he's got something to say or uh

4227
02:53:22,469 --> 02:53:19,359
anjali has got something to say on this

4228
02:53:25,590 --> 02:53:22,479
we'll find out on wednesday only in that

4229
02:53:27,670 --> 02:53:25,600
uh the intelligence community to me

4230
02:53:30,550 --> 02:53:27,680
um you know the pentagon the defense and

4231
02:53:32,070 --> 02:53:30,560
uh intelligence agents it it's big but

4232
02:53:35,590 --> 02:53:32,080
it's also small

4233
02:53:36,950 --> 02:53:35,600
right where everybody kind of knows

4234
02:53:39,830 --> 02:53:36,960
everybody

4235
02:53:43,349 --> 02:53:39,840
so we'll see i mean i just find that

4236
02:53:45,110 --> 02:53:43,359
part interesting that she absolutely

4237
02:53:47,510 --> 02:53:45,120
chose to

4238
02:53:49,190 --> 02:53:47,520
lay out her entire life to everybody and

4239
02:53:52,550 --> 02:53:49,200
if you just want to go and check it out

4240
02:53:54,870 --> 02:53:52,560
that's it the other part to this um and

4241
02:53:56,150 --> 02:53:54,880
this is what i find very interesting

4242
02:53:59,590 --> 02:53:56,160
eric

4243
02:54:04,790 --> 02:54:02,710
the mojave incident

4244
02:54:07,830 --> 02:54:04,800
right now

4245
02:54:09,990 --> 02:54:07,840
you know and if we go back uh to ron

4246
02:54:11,030 --> 02:54:10,000
feldberg and his book the mojave

4247
02:54:13,990 --> 02:54:11,040
incident

4248
02:54:15,429 --> 02:54:14,000
and and the hesses who were on fade to

4249
02:54:16,710 --> 02:54:15,439
black and

4250
02:54:20,150 --> 02:54:16,720
and uh

4251
02:54:23,190 --> 02:54:20,160
and and so forth the the amount of uh

4252
02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:23,200
research that i did into the mojave

4253
02:54:29,269 --> 02:54:25,200
desert the mojave incident

4254
02:54:31,990 --> 02:54:29,279
and uh those great shows that we did uh

4255
02:54:35,349 --> 02:54:32,000
uh with felber and the hesses back then

4256
02:54:37,269 --> 02:54:35,359
that is the mojave incident

4257
02:54:38,710 --> 02:54:37,279
part of this

4258
02:54:41,990 --> 02:54:38,720
thing

4259
02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:42,000
you know is it related is it connected

4260
02:54:48,150 --> 02:54:44,800
is it in the area where this uh

4261
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:48,160
underground e.t base is that she says

4262
02:54:51,269 --> 02:54:50,000
that she has been to and she's going to

4263
02:54:53,190 --> 02:54:51,279
return to

4264
02:54:54,710 --> 02:54:53,200
with this team of scientists and

4265
02:54:58,469 --> 02:54:54,720
intellectuals

4266
02:55:01,269 --> 02:54:58,479
um i i did that surprise you and did you

4267
02:55:03,910 --> 02:55:01,279
immediately think of the hesses

4268
02:55:06,070 --> 02:55:03,920
and and felber's book

4269
02:55:08,309 --> 02:55:06,080
i did but here's what i also thought of

4270
02:55:10,309 --> 02:55:08,319
immediately is that their experience did

4271
02:55:11,349 --> 02:55:10,319
not sound to be like the same kind of

4272
02:55:13,670 --> 02:55:11,359
people

4273
02:55:14,790 --> 02:55:13,680
that anjali uh was able to meet

4274
02:55:16,870 --> 02:55:14,800
apparently

4275
02:55:18,790 --> 02:55:16,880
uh it sounded like anjali had a very

4276
02:55:20,469 --> 02:55:18,800
positive experience in the sense that

4277
02:55:21,670 --> 02:55:20,479
whoever those people are that she says

4278
02:55:23,510 --> 02:55:21,680
that she met

4279
02:55:25,190 --> 02:55:23,520
uh sound like they're gonna try to help

4280
02:55:25,990 --> 02:55:25,200
humanity or something along those lines

4281
02:55:28,070 --> 02:55:26,000
or

4282
02:55:29,750 --> 02:55:28,080
whereas the hesses uh

4283
02:55:31,349 --> 02:55:29,760
i mean it scared the hell out of them

4284
02:55:32,870 --> 02:55:31,359
and and so

4285
02:55:34,389 --> 02:55:32,880
but i i just want to make one quick

4286
02:55:36,150 --> 02:55:34,399
comment for anyone that's listening is

4287
02:55:37,830 --> 02:55:36,160
uh and jimmy you know this and like you

4288
02:55:39,110 --> 02:55:37,840
just mentioned about your edward's uh

4289
02:55:40,790 --> 02:55:39,120
sighting that you know if you had it

4290
02:55:42,070 --> 02:55:40,800
alone so you tell the story and that's

4291
02:55:43,429 --> 02:55:42,080
it what do you do you don't got him you

4292
02:55:45,429 --> 02:55:43,439
have no pictures

4293
02:55:46,870 --> 02:55:45,439
but to this day the best sighting that

4294
02:55:48,550 --> 02:55:46,880
i've ever had and you've seen some of

4295
02:55:50,389 --> 02:55:48,560
the videos that i've shot when i was

4296
02:55:52,389 --> 02:55:50,399
when i've been with people and i've had

4297
02:55:54,550 --> 02:55:52,399
sightings but when i was at kell becker

4298
02:55:56,630 --> 02:55:54,560
road seven miles off the highway 40 uh

4299
02:55:58,389 --> 02:55:56,640
in the mojave desert national preserve

4300
02:56:01,349 --> 02:55:58,399
over there by the granite mountains

4301
02:56:03,030 --> 02:56:01,359
and i saw that 40-foot chrome spear

4302
02:56:06,389 --> 02:56:03,040
hovering over that tower that was 100

4303
02:56:08,630 --> 02:56:06,399
yards away from me and and that moment

4304
02:56:10,550 --> 02:56:08,640
it removed all doubt

4305
02:56:12,389 --> 02:56:10,560
that we are not alone because

4306
02:56:14,550 --> 02:56:12,399
unless that was some sort of holographic

4307
02:56:16,230 --> 02:56:14,560
projection that was put up for me to see

4308
02:56:18,070 --> 02:56:16,240
for some reason right either way that

4309
02:56:19,830 --> 02:56:18,080
would be a mind blower too but the point

4310
02:56:22,230 --> 02:56:19,840
i'm trying to make is you and i talked

4311
02:56:24,710 --> 02:56:22,240
about this just a few days ago that

4312
02:56:26,950 --> 02:56:24,720
there's a very highly probable chance

4313
02:56:29,190 --> 02:56:26,960
that there's some sort of uh e.t type

4314
02:56:30,870 --> 02:56:29,200
race or non-human type race that's

4315
02:56:31,750 --> 02:56:30,880
that's in the mojave desert i believe

4316
02:56:34,630 --> 02:56:31,760
that

4317
02:56:36,870 --> 02:56:34,640
i believe it am i not i'm all in i told

4318
02:56:37,910 --> 02:56:36,880
you that i'm 90 90 95

4319
02:56:41,110 --> 02:56:37,920
well

4320
02:56:42,950 --> 02:56:41,120
the mojave desert and if you look at it

4321
02:56:45,510 --> 02:56:42,960
on a map

4322
02:56:47,670 --> 02:56:45,520
um and just i'm going to bring up lori

4323
02:56:49,910 --> 02:56:47,680
wagner one more time she sent me a map

4324
02:56:52,830 --> 02:56:49,920
of the mojave desert yesterday

4325
02:56:54,389 --> 02:56:52,840
and it's massive it it goes

4326
02:56:56,870 --> 02:56:54,399
from uh

4327
02:56:59,190 --> 02:56:56,880
lancaster palmdale edwards air force

4328
02:57:00,150 --> 02:56:59,200
base right lockheed skunk works all of

4329
02:57:04,150 --> 02:57:00,160
that

4330
02:57:06,870 --> 02:57:04,160
all the way to nevada deep into nevada

4331
02:57:10,309 --> 02:57:06,880
and right and it goes way far north it

4332
02:57:13,269 --> 02:57:10,319
is a big huge chunk of land now there's

4333
02:57:13,990 --> 02:57:13,279
a few cities a few towns that are in

4334
02:57:16,870 --> 02:57:14,000
there

4335
02:57:18,790 --> 02:57:16,880
the majority of the mojave desert is

4336
02:57:20,389 --> 02:57:18,800
just that

4337
02:57:23,429 --> 02:57:20,399
desert

4338
02:57:26,309 --> 02:57:23,439
they're right there is the

4339
02:57:28,150 --> 02:57:26,319
99 of the mojave desert no humans have

4340
02:57:30,469 --> 02:57:28,160
set foot on

4341
02:57:31,990 --> 02:57:30,479
and that's that's the truth

4342
02:57:33,990 --> 02:57:32,000
um and so

4343
02:57:36,309 --> 02:57:34,000
i could see

4344
02:57:38,710 --> 02:57:36,319
not only do i understand the mojave

4345
02:57:41,830 --> 02:57:38,720
incident as the hesses

4346
02:57:43,190 --> 02:57:41,840
um have recounted and and and told us

4347
02:57:46,230 --> 02:57:43,200
their story

4348
02:57:48,389 --> 02:57:46,240
but if there is going to be something

4349
02:57:51,750 --> 02:57:48,399
secret you know

4350
02:57:54,550 --> 02:57:51,760
it goes to china lake and and area 51

4351
02:57:57,349 --> 02:57:54,560
and and just on and on and on and on

4352
02:57:58,870 --> 02:57:57,359
that that is it's a remote area and if

4353
02:57:59,670 --> 02:57:58,880
you want to

4354
02:58:02,630 --> 02:57:59,680
uh

4355
02:58:04,469 --> 02:58:02,640
do something with think of giant rock

4356
02:58:06,389 --> 02:58:04,479
right and

4357
02:58:08,790 --> 02:58:06,399
we could just go on and on there you go

4358
02:58:10,469 --> 02:58:08,800
yes yes i mean you know angelina might

4359
02:58:13,910 --> 02:58:10,479
have run into some leftovers from the

4360
02:58:17,030 --> 02:58:13,920
venusians maybe who knows

4361
02:58:19,349 --> 02:58:17,040
well i'm i you know i've uh

4362
02:58:21,670 --> 02:58:19,359
i watched her press conference i've i've

4363
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:21,680
spoken to her okay

4364
02:58:29,349 --> 02:58:25,120
um i'm very intrigued

4365
02:58:31,830 --> 02:58:29,359
um but if you are going to uh lay out

4366
02:58:33,750 --> 02:58:31,840
your your complete work history your

4367
02:58:35,269 --> 02:58:33,760
education everything else and your name

4368
02:58:37,670 --> 02:58:35,279
and your aliases

4369
02:58:40,710 --> 02:58:37,680
uh you know a former name whatever right

4370
02:58:42,870 --> 02:58:40,720
your other names um and and put it out

4371
02:58:44,790 --> 02:58:42,880
there and then specifically say i've

4372
02:58:46,389 --> 02:58:44,800
been to the space i'm gonna go back with

4373
02:58:49,030 --> 02:58:46,399
this team and we're going to do it

4374
02:58:51,190 --> 02:58:49,040
before the end of 2021 well we're

4375
02:58:53,030 --> 02:58:51,200
sitting at the end of august we're going

4376
02:58:54,870 --> 02:58:53,040
into september there's only so many

4377
02:58:56,469 --> 02:58:54,880
months left

4378
02:58:59,670 --> 02:58:56,479
so

4379
02:59:01,349 --> 02:58:59,680
this is this is pretty interesting and

4380
02:59:03,110 --> 02:59:01,359
could this be let me let me run this by

4381
02:59:04,950 --> 02:59:03,120
real quick what if this turns into and

4382
02:59:07,030 --> 02:59:04,960
i'm just joking here but not really what

4383
02:59:09,349 --> 02:59:07,040
if this turns into geraldo rivera moment

4384
02:59:11,269 --> 02:59:09,359
where they put the team together they go

4385
02:59:13,190 --> 02:59:11,279
out to wayne's property they get into

4386
02:59:15,670 --> 02:59:13,200
the cave they go in the cave they're

4387
02:59:16,950 --> 02:59:15,680
looking and they're not there

4388
02:59:18,790 --> 02:59:16,960
they're they're not there where'd they

4389
02:59:20,389 --> 02:59:18,800
go i mean that could happen too

4390
02:59:22,790 --> 02:59:20,399
that would be interesting what was that

4391
02:59:26,870 --> 02:59:22,800
al capone's vault yeah the whole

4392
02:59:30,790 --> 02:59:29,190
yeah i mean hey uh

4393
02:59:33,510 --> 02:59:30,800
look uh

4394
02:59:35,830 --> 02:59:33,520
expect the worst and take what comes

4395
02:59:37,269 --> 02:59:35,840
right yeah you know and and i think

4396
02:59:39,590 --> 02:59:37,279
that's the only way to look at it but

4397
02:59:41,590 --> 02:59:39,600
i'm very excited it's gonna be

4398
02:59:43,110 --> 02:59:41,600
and i think angelique could bring you i

4399
02:59:44,150 --> 02:59:43,120
really i think that that's something

4400
02:59:46,309 --> 02:59:44,160
that uh

4401
02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:46,319
you should be leveraging for immediately

4402
02:59:49,510 --> 02:59:47,680
if not sooner

4403
02:59:53,349 --> 02:59:49,520
well we'll see

4404
03:00:00,950 --> 02:59:56,870
it's gonna be great and uh

4405
03:00:04,230 --> 03:00:00,960
uh this is her first time uh going on

4406
03:00:05,590 --> 03:00:04,240
uh you know a big time show and and for

4407
03:00:08,309 --> 03:00:05,600
her to

4408
03:00:09,750 --> 03:00:08,319
uh to step up and and go through it look

4409
03:00:11,510 --> 03:00:09,760
we're just gonna have another show

4410
03:00:12,550 --> 03:00:11,520
another conversation like we do with

4411
03:00:15,110 --> 03:00:12,560
every guest

4412
03:00:16,630 --> 03:00:15,120
i'm very intrigued i'm very interested

4413
03:00:17,910 --> 03:00:16,640
and i hope that

4414
03:00:20,630 --> 03:00:17,920
uh

4415
03:00:22,230 --> 03:00:20,640
this this whole thing plays out and and

4416
03:00:25,269 --> 03:00:22,240
it we have a

4417
03:00:28,070 --> 03:00:25,279
a a a great conclusion to this you know

4418
03:00:29,910 --> 03:00:28,080
i was um speaking uh to richard dolan

4419
03:00:30,950 --> 03:00:29,920
about this yesterday i'm not name

4420
03:00:32,389 --> 03:00:30,960
dropping

4421
03:00:33,910 --> 03:00:32,399
but uh

4422
03:00:35,830 --> 03:00:33,920
you know and i said so what do you think

4423
03:00:37,910 --> 03:00:35,840
and he goes you know what man

4424
03:00:39,510 --> 03:00:37,920
uh

4425
03:00:42,790 --> 03:00:39,520
this could be it

4426
03:00:43,590 --> 03:00:42,800
you know and and and why not why not

4427
03:00:46,950 --> 03:00:43,600
yeah

4428
03:00:50,150 --> 03:00:46,960
no why not so let's uh let's go so he's

4429
03:00:51,429 --> 03:00:50,160
he's the same mindset that i have which

4430
03:00:52,950 --> 03:00:51,439
is uh

4431
03:00:55,110 --> 03:00:52,960
let's listen

4432
03:00:57,110 --> 03:00:55,120
um let's uh let's go through this

4433
03:00:58,950 --> 03:00:57,120
together and let's see what happens and

4434
03:01:00,309 --> 03:00:58,960
and there you go and one more thing i

4435
03:01:02,070 --> 03:01:00,319
want to say is i'm going to bet you

4436
03:01:03,670 --> 03:01:02,080
right now that in your conversation

4437
03:01:05,429 --> 03:01:03,680
wednesday it's going to be revealed

4438
03:01:07,750 --> 03:01:05,439
because you're going to ask her that she

4439
03:01:10,469 --> 03:01:07,760
has had experiences prior to these exp

4440
03:01:12,150 --> 03:01:10,479
i'm childhood whatever i mean i'm just

4441
03:01:13,750 --> 03:01:12,160
going to speculate now that this was not

4442
03:01:15,990 --> 03:01:13,760
her first rodeo

4443
03:01:17,830 --> 03:01:16,000
thank you so much eric and everybody

4444
03:01:20,550 --> 03:01:17,840
that was on hold

4445
03:01:22,710 --> 03:01:20,560
ah man it's just the way that it goes

4446
03:01:25,030 --> 03:01:22,720
but we will have open lines tomorrow

4447
03:01:29,670 --> 03:01:25,040
night too as well thank you so much eric

4448
03:01:34,710 --> 03:01:31,830
what a great way to kick off the week

4449
03:01:38,150 --> 03:01:34,720
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4450
03:01:41,670 --> 03:01:38,160
almost said ron felder

4451
03:01:45,269 --> 03:01:41,680
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4452
03:01:47,269 --> 03:01:45,279
over at j3 films

4453
03:01:50,469 --> 03:01:47,279
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4454
03:01:51,830 --> 03:01:50,479
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4466
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4472
03:02:29,830 --> 03:02:27,920
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4473
03:02:30,790 --> 03:02:29,840
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4474
03:02:33,110 --> 03:02:30,800
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4475
03:02:41,340 --> 03:02:33,120
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